By Sharmini Serasinghe –
Caution- The following is more suitable for the broad-minded and the wise. Others are kindly advised to pass!
Wonder if ours might have been a wiser, and a more ‘humane’ society, had our ‘ancient’ history, been based on Aesop’s Fables, instead of the Mahavamsa. For if not for the Mahavamsa, the Sinhalese may not have been endowed, with the reputation, of “Sinhalaya Modaya (The Sinhalese are Fools)”!
In this “wonderland” called Sri Lanka, and in this day and age, one still comes across ‘academically’ educated, and supposedly intelligent ‘Buddhists’, but sadly lacking in wisdom, who reverently believe, that the Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb, and walked seven steps, while lotuses blossomed, under his feet!
These very same supposedly educated, and intelligent ‘Buddhists’ also believe, that the enormous indentation, resembling a footprint on a boulder, at Adam’s Peak (Sri Pada to ‘Buddhists’), to be that of the Buddha. This would be in keeping with the conviction that the Buddha, was as tall, or perhaps even taller, than the Avukana Buddha statue, which stands above 40 feet (12 meters) in height!
Then, there is the ‘Dalada Maligawe’ in Kandy; most Buddhists believe, the tooth relic housed within, belonged to the Buddha. Some adorn the ‘tooth casket’ with mounds of gold jewelry, fervently believing, that they would earn merit, to the value of the gold they offer. The thought of donating the value of this gold, to feed and help, the poor, sick and the needy, that would be far more meritorious, never cross their minds!
There hangs a controversial question, over the authenticity of this ‘sacred tooth’. But then again, to those ‘educated and intelligent Buddhists’, devoid of wisdom, if the Buddha, was taller than the Avukana statue, and had a giant footprint, as on Adam’s Peak, then this ‘huge tooth’ could be his!
However it does not matter, if the tooth is over-sized, belonged to the Buddha or not, because he the ‘wise one’ asserted, that his followers must not revere, nor worship, any part of his physical self, nor idolize him. Had the Buddha wanted otherwise, he would have left not just a tooth, but his entire skeleton, for his followers to worship.
The annual Esala Perahera, in Kandy, is yet another case in point. This colourful and spectacular ‘parade’ of the ‘tooth relic’, atop a magnificent elephant, is nothing but an ego-boosting exercise, of small minded men of yore, and now, a tradition of small minded men of the present. The ‘Esala Perahera’ therefore, is no relation of Buddhism!
Then there are also those ‘Buddhists’, who on Full Moon (Poya) days, make a bee-line draped in white, to the temple, to ‘pray’ to ‘God Buddha’. They piously recite the ‘Five Precepts’ and other Buddhist verses, as in ‘praying’, facing a perceived image, of the miracle performing ‘God Buddha’. The Five Precepts- the basic code of ethics that the Buddhist laity, is required to abide by, cease to hold any value, beyond the temple gates!
They offer flowers, to clay and stone images of the Buddha, and light oil lamps, as it is an idée recue; believing by doing so, one earns enormous merit. Little do they understand the significance, of such customs; they fail to connect the similarity of flowers and the oil lamp, with their impermanent life – ‘anicca’.
Then they also go on to bathe the ‘Bo tree’ (Bodhi Puja), with pots of water, thereby encouraging tree-rot, expecting the ‘holy’ tree’ under which ‘God Buddha’ attained enlightenment, to bestow merit upon them to. During trying times, unable to accept their ‘karma’, they once again flood the ‘Bo tree’, expecting deliverance from their misery.
When this unique ‘brand’ of Sinhala/Mahavamsa-Buddhism fails to deliver, they next make a bee-line, to a Hindu kovil, break coconuts, praying for miracles, as well as cursing and damning to hell, fellow human beings. Then off they go, to a Christian church and light candles and then, to Sai Baba or even a Mosque (I have no idea what they do there). At all these places, promises (vows) are made, to various Gods, on a quid pro quo basis. Some, even resort to animal sacrifice!
Then, there are also those who believe, that the Mahawamsa was authored, by the Buddha himself!
All that the Buddha asked, of his followers, was to lead a life according to his noble teachings. But this, most find so hard to do, especially the ‘simple’ minded, Mahavamsa-Buddhist!
Mahavamsa Lies and Deceit
Perhaps nowhere in the world, might one find, this strange practice of Buddhism, other than by most Sinhalese; for it is neither a religion nor a philosophy. It is a unique ‘culture’, passed off as Buddhism, in Sri Lanka!
Who and what distorted the Buddhist philosophy, in Sri Lanka? I say firmly, the blame must be laid fair and square, at the feet of Mahanama thera, and his ‘book of Buddhist tales’- the Mahavamsa. For, it deals mostly, with mythical and supernatural tales of so called, Buddhist history, with some borrowed from the ‘Mahabaratha’ and ‘Ramayana’.
Through his Mahavamsa, Mahanama portrayed Sri Lanka, as the ‘Dammadeepa’; the chosen land of the Buddha, to protect and propagate his Dhamma. He, Mahanama said, (NOT the Buddha), that Buddhism will prevail, for five-thousand years, and the Sinhalese alone, must “protect” it.
Perhaps at a time, when Buddhism began to lose its popularity in India, The monks of the Mahavihara, especially Mahanama, might have panicked, and therefore decided to make Sri Lanka a ‘Buddhist Country’, in order to ‘protect’ Buddhism.
Thus, he created the Sinhala race, by bringing together, those from various tribes and ethnic groups, to create this one ‘supreme’ race- Sinhala-Buddhist; Buddha’s chosen people, Mahanama said, to protect Buddhism, for five-thousand years!
The Buddhist scriptures, Tripitaka, (Viniya, Suttaand Abhidhamma), and the Mahavamsa, were both written in the Pali language. Therefore the average Buddhist laity, who was not au fait with this language, would not have understood the difference between the Tripitaka, and the Mahavamsa. Hence when Buddhist monks preached the Mahavamsa, the laity accepted all that the monks said, as the true words of the Buddha.
From that day forward, 2600 years ago, the Buddhist clergy of this country, transformed the Buddhist philosophy, into an ‘ethnic’ religion of the Sinhalese, and propagated it as such, as per the Mahavamsa. Thus, over the past 2600 years, Buddhists, in this country, have been misled, misguided, led astray and lied to, by our Buddhist clergy, and their ‘bible’- the Mahavamsa!.
By converting the philosophy into a religion, Buddhist monks, also converted the Buddha, into a ‘God’, and themselves, as his ‘Messengers’, who must be revered and worshiped; totally disregarding the Buddha’s words-
“Believe nothing, in the faith of traditions,
even though, they have been held in honor,
for many generations, and in diverse places.
Do not believe, a thing, because many people speak of it.
Do not believe, in the faith, of the sages of the past.
Do not believe, what you yourself have imagined,
persuading yourself, that a God inspires you.
Believe nothing, on the sole authority, of your masters and priests.
After examination, believe what you yourself, have tested
and found, to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.” The Buddha
A case in point, as it is recorded nowhere, of the Buddha having said, is that alms must be offered to monks, in one’s home or at a temple, seven-days, three-months and one-year after a death, in one’s family.
This practice perhaps, originated through a custom, followed by our ancestors, that has today become sine qua non, for Buddhists-
2600 years ago, a Buddhist temple was the only venue, of social gathering, activity and entertainment, in a village. Hence, when a ‘Rite of Passage’ i.e. death in a family occurred, it was only natural, for the entire village, including Buddhist monks, to visit the bereaved family, and offer words and deeds of comfort and consolation, to them .
Sinhalese hospitality being such, all gathered, would be offered a meal, by the bereaved family, and the monks too, would partake of that meal. This, over the years, became part and parcel, and a ‘religious ceremony’, of the Sinhala- Buddhist ‘religion’.
With time, the Buddhist clergy, introduced a sense of ‘guilt’, to the Buddhist laity, that if such ‘alms-giving ceremonies’, were not held, the departed will be reborn, in ‘hell’. So once again, ‘debunking’ the Buddha’s theory, of ‘karma’ (unavoidable results, of our intentional actions), the monks carved a path of convenience, and reverence, for themselves.
So, according to Sinhala/Mahavamsa-Buddhism, even a murderer, rapist, child molester, and others as such, could circumvent their bad ‘karma’ and be reborn in ‘heaven’, courtesy alms and gifts, offered to Buddhist monks.
Coming from a family regarded as ‘pillars’ of the Buddhist temple, I have observed and been made to participate, in this ridiculous practice, of alms-givings, since early childhood. My paternal grandmother, in Galle, held an annual alms-giving, at her home, for a hundred corps d’elite of Buddhist monks. She had the best of the most expensive crockery, brass ‘padikkamas’, (spitting pots)’ et al, set aside, for the exclusive use of each of these monks. My grandmother, in Kandy was no different.
Today, no event of significance, for a Sinhala-Buddhist is held, without the patronage and ‘blessings’ of the ‘Maha Sangha’ (Buddhist monks). And our foolish laity, continue to believe, that the more you feed and spoil these ‘people’, the more ‘merit’ they, and their dearly departed, would receive!
Who will convince them otherwise, certainly not the Buddhist clergy!
Mahavamsa- a Sinhala-Buddhist Political Guide
If one was to go by the Mahavamsa, the Sinhala race came about, through a mythical union between a lion and a human princess. Perhaps that explains why, Mahavamsa-Buddhists, are so lethargic and bloodthirsty!
But in reality, the Sinhalese race, was a creation of the Buddhist monks of the Mahavihara, who themselves originated from India (unless they were aboriginal Veddhas).
The Mahavihara monk, Mahanama, projected himself as the Messenger of the Buddha- a 1000 years after the passing away of the Buddha himself.
The Mahavamsa was written at a time, when all Sinhalese were Buddhists and all Tamils were Hindus, long before other religions, were introduced to our country.
So, author Mahanama, designed the Mahavamsa to be, instead of a historical record of the Sinhalese and Tamils of Lanka, as a Buddhist canonical text, for the descendants of a Lion!
He took ‘bits’ and ‘pieces’ from Hinduism viz the caste system, idol worshiping, astrology, superstition etc., and projected the Buddha as a superhuman, or a God. This made it more appealing, to the average human psyche; as a religion is far easier to deal with, than a complex philosophy like Buddhism.
So today, we have Sinhala-Buddhists running around in circles, when facing a crisis, between, temples, kovils, churches, mosques and ‘others’ such, as Sai Baba.
Though the author intended the Mahavamsa to be, for the “serene joy of the pious” it contradicts itself, by condoning and equating the killing of human “invaders”, with “sinners, and wild beasts”.
He, Mahanama, in his Mahavamsa justifies, and glorifies the murder by Dutugemunu, of thousands of Tamils he called “invaders”, by equating them with “sinners, and wild beasts”. So, where is Buddhism in that? Thus, how can one regard the Mahavamsa, as a Buddhist guide?
If the Maha Sangha had been sincere, and honest from the outset, they would have disassociated the Mahavamsa, from Buddhism. Had they done so, Buddhism in Sri Lanka today, might have been practiced as the Buddha meant it to be; as per the Dhamma.
Therefore it is the linking of Buddhism with the Sinhalese, this text stands for, that has over the years, formed the mentality of the Sinhala-Buddhist psyche. It became a cast or a mould, of the Sinhala-Buddhist racist; a psychological tool, and a political guide of the Sinhala-Buddhists.
The Curse of the Caste System
What made all those Sinhalese who were originally Buddhists, turn to other religions?
The caste system, denounced by the Buddha, has been fostered by none other, than the Buddhist clergy of the Mahavamsa, themselves. They divided themselves between Nikayas, based on caste, and banned those Buddhists, they called ‘low caste’, from entering the temples, they administered.
Therefore, is it any wonder, that those Sinhalese Buddhists, would turn to a more compassionate faith, where caste, creed or ethnicity, has no place? Perhaps those Mahavamsa/Sinhala-Buddhists, like the Bodu Bala Sena (BBS), their sponsors and supporters, ought to reflect on what they say and do, and ask themselves, why these Sri Lankans, who were originally Sinhalese Buddhists, renounced Buddhism, and embrace other faiths?
Strangely, in India, it is the ‘low castes’; Harijans/Dalits, once called “untouchables” or “pariahs”, who are Buddhists, and not the Brahmins of India, despite the Buddha, being a Brahmin himself.
To the Brahmins of India, one’s caste was a matter of vital importance, but one of utter indifference to the Buddha. He strongly condemned, the degradation, of the caste system. In his Order, Monks of all castes were united, as do the rivers in the sea. They lost their former names, castes, and clans, and came to be known, as members of One Community– the Sangha.
Once, the Buddha, while begging for alms, approached the house of the Brahmin, Aggikabharadvaja. The Brahmin, seeing the Buddha at a distance, shouted out: “Stay there, you shaveling, stay there you wretched monk, stay there you outcast.” The Buddha, gently asked the Brahmin: “Do you know, Brahmin, who an outcast is, and what are the conditions, that make one an outcast?”
To the dumbstruck Brahmin, the Buddha said, “”Birth makes not a man an outcast, Birth makes not a man a Brahmin; Actions make a man an outcast, Actions make a man a Brahmin.” (Sutta-nipâta, 142)
Thus, the Buddha admitted freely, into the Buddhist Order, all those he deemed fit, to lead the holy life, from all walks of life, castes and classes. Some went on to distinguish themselves, in the Buddhist Order. The Buddha was one, who united all those torn apart, by man-made differences, of caste, creed and class.
Today, save a few, where does one find these wise words, of the Buddha, practiced by our Sangha, of the Mahavamsa?
Mahavamsa Indoctrination-
I recall my first, school Buddhist text book, as a six-year-old in Grade-One. The cover of the book was illustrated with a picture, of a fully clothed infant Buddha, walking on lotus blossoms. After querying its significance, I was informed by my ‘Buddhism’ teacher, that the Buddha walked, soon after he was born and informed all, that he would be the greatest. And because of this, lotuses blossomed, with each step he took.
For a child, who was constantly seeing her newborn cousins, not capable of such miracles, this seemed like magic to me. So I asked my teacher, if the Buddha was a magician. I was severely admonished, as a “pow kareya” (sinner), and punished for being irreverent.
From that day forward, I became extremely cautious, of whoever tried to talk Buddhism to me, until I became a lay disciple, from childhood to adulthood, of the late Rev. Piyadassi Maha Thera. My ‘guru’ taught me Buddhism, in its original form, as per the Dhamma, and not its corrupt, Mahavamsa version!
From an early age, the innocent and pure minds, of Sinhalese Buddhist children, are ‘brainwashed’, by foolish parents and teachers, with Sinhala-Buddhist racism; Mahavamsa Buddhism!
They are taught, to regard, the ‘other’, who is not a Sinhala-Buddhist, as “an invader”. They are taught, not to trust this ‘other’, who does not belong to Sri Lanka, and is only a ‘guest’, of the ‘benevolent’ Sinhala-Buddhists.
Thus, they are taught, at an early age, that all Tamils, Muslims, Hindus, Christians (Sinhala Christians included) and others, must be chased away, from Mahavamsa-Buddhist Sri Lanka, just as in ancient times, when King Dutugemunu, killed or chased away the “invaders”, to Tamil Nadu.
In Mahavamsa Buddhism, there is no place, for the Buddha’s Dhamma, of tolerance and compassion!
My ‘Accidents’ with Mahavamsa-Buddhism
My first school was a Convent, in Galle. Here, I was a very happy child, amidst a mélange of others, of various ethnic groups, and religions, including Buddhism.
With time, my Buddhist family thought it essential, for me to change to a Buddhist school. So there I ended up in an exclusive Sinhalese Buddhist private school for girls, in Colombo.
As an eleven-year-old, coming from a Convent, I was most unprepared for the ‘culture shocks’ that awaited me, at this private Buddhist school!
Coming from a family background, where displaying one’s wealth, was regarded as vulgar, as exposing one’s body, I was horrified, at the liberties afforded to the students, and teachers of this Buddhist school. Some tended to favour, students who displayed, their recently acquired family wealth; decked in gold, and dressed in ‘mini’ uniforms, and flashed money freely. They laughed and ridiculed those who appeared less privileged.
For instance, my father once dropped me in school, in his jeep, on his way to Galle. A teacher seeing this, (ironically it was my ‘Buddhism’ teacher), announced in class, that I had come to school that day, in a lorry. Of course as to be expected, I was ridiculed and made fun of, by most of my classmates. I wondered how they might have treated me, had I come to school, by bus!
The horror of studying ‘Buddhism’, in a Buddhist school, is a story by itself!
What was ‘taught’ as Buddhism, and passed off as ‘teaching’ was in fact, a self-teaching exercise, where we the students, were ordered to memorize, Buddhist verses in Pali, with no meaning of the verses offered, while the teacher napped, at her table.
This is how they ‘taught’ Buddhism, in a Buddhist school, that charged exorbitant fees, from unsuspecting parents, who believed their offspring were receiving, a ‘sound Buddhist education’. All this happened, thirty-five years ago (late 70s), and I sincerely hope, this situation has changed, for the better now.
Severely traumatised, by my horrifying ‘Buddhist school’ experience, my parents moved me back, to a Convent. And once again, I happily found myself amidst, a mélange of girls, of various ethnic groups, and religions.
With Mahavamsa-Buddhism, I seem to be accident-prone!
As a young adult, I came across many, who regarded the iconic Sinhala-Buddhist-Anagarika Dharmapala, as the next best thing, to Lord Buddha. Their hypocritical practice, of Mahavamsa-Buddhism, left a bitter taste, in my mouth, I yet feel to date.
Yet another ‘unfortunate accident’ I met, with Mahavamsa Buddhism, was when I tried to have my young son of eight years, admitted to a ‘Buddhist Sunday School’, at a leading Buddhist temple, in Colombo. The person in charge, of new admittance, was a short-tempered ‘gentleman’ of the Buddhist laity.
This ‘gentleman’ informed me, in an angry and loud voice, that I had no business, as a woman, admitting my son, though I was his mother, to a Buddhist Sunday School. He demanded that my son, be accompanied, by his father, if I wished to have him admitted, to this Buddhist Sunday School!
I wondered how, widows managed to admit their sons, to this Buddhist Sunday School.
Teach Comparative Religion in Schools
As a lay-student, of the world renowned most Venerable Piyadassi Maha Thera, I consider myself privileged, to have had such an eminent Guru, of the Buddhist order. Rev. Piyadassi, as I referred to him, had been a close friend of my family for generations, with whom we, as a family, had frequent interaction.
Here was a highly educated, intellectual Buddhist prelate, who would insist that we sit with him at table, and have lunch along with him, while I, as a curious teenager, bombarded him with questions on Buddhism, which he answered patiently and clearly. This type of interaction, with such teachers, is what is required today.
With Rev. Piyadassi’s demise in 1998, in my eyes at the time, he left shoes too big to be filled. But now I know better. For there are many Buddhist prelates and monks of his caliber out there, who are worthy of being revered and worshipped, as the true messengers of Lord Buddha’s philosophy, and they are those, who can guide Sri Lanka’s future Buddhist generations, away from Mahavamsa indoctrination, and on to the correct path.
Alas, such genuine Buddhist prelates and monks, never make news, and are often found in jungles, in deep meditation.
If Sri Lanka’s incumbent President, sincerely wishes to safeguard and foster Buddhism, in its pristine form, then it is his bounden duty, to bring forth a system, whereby our impressionable younger and future generations, are taught the Dhamma, by intelligent and educated Buddhist prelates, as opposed to those stick-in the-mud, Mahavamsa-Buddhist monks, who by no stretch of one’s imagination, are pristine models of Buddhism, to do the job.
The incumbent President has assured more than once, of “religious freedom for all communities, by enhancing interreligious harmony and tolerance”. If he is sincere, then he ought to consider introducing the subject of ‘Comparative Religion’, to all schools, whereby all would understand, the religion of the other.
This would ensure, from an early age, a deeper understanding of the fundamental philosophy of different religions, practiced in Sri Lanka, and that no religion, is above the other.
A child, who has undertaken such a course of study, will undoubtedly have a much deeper understanding of human beliefs and practices, and therefore be more tolerant of each other; not feel threatened by the religion of the other.
This would ideally lead, to our ultimate dream, of a peaceful Sri Lanka, for one and all!
However, the question begs, are our politicians selfless and sincere enough, to take up such a challenge?
JimSofty / December 23, 2013
Creating violence and then moralising is one of the WMDs used by the Christian church to destabilise native societies. The Karen rebels in Burma and Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka were well supported by the Christian church. They were in the forefront supporting the Tigers internationally. Their propaganda machines depicted the war as a fight between Buddhists and Hindus. It was not unusual to use a caricature of a Buddhist monk with an AK-47 in one hand and a grenade in the other as a tool to denigrate Buddhism in articles written in western media. This was done with a view to reinforcing the western mindset that non-western religions are dangerous cults, barbaric, primitive, intolerant and aggressive. -ԚÂ J. Goonetilleke
Christianisation was the third force of colonialism as best expressed by Jomo Kenyatta, the late Kenyan leader, who said: â┚¬Ã…“When the white man came he had the bible we had the land. Then he said â┚¬Ã‹Å“let us close our eyes and prayâ┚¬Ã¢”ž¢. When we opened our eyes we had the Bible he had the land.â┚¬Ã‚
This is further confirmed by the fact that every British aristocratic family had a lord, a bishop, a businessman in the City, and a landed proprietor, confirming the active part played by Christianity in the colonial system. The church was well and truly involved in the subjugation and exploitation of the people in the colonies, and also had financial interests in the colonial system. It is well-known that the first bank that dealt in multi-currency dealings was the Vatican, to bankroll the money it acquired from the various countries. Colonialism has now been overtaken by Neo-Colonialism, but the part played by the church has not changed. Exploitation can only be continued if the natural cohesion in societies is disrupted by groups aligned to foreign forces. This is the aim of conversion.
David Frawley in his book Ethics of Conversion says: â┚¬Ã…“Missionary business remains one of the largest in the world and it has enormous funding at many levels. It is like several multinational corporations with different Catholic, Protestant and Evangelical groups involved. There are full-time staff and organisations allocating money, creating media hype, plotting strategies and seeking new ways to promote conversions. The local native religion has about as much chance as a local food-seller has if Mc Donaldâ┚¬Ã¢”ž¢s moves into his neighbourhood with a slick well-funded advertising campaign targeting his customers. Yet while many third world countries have government policies to protect small businesses, they usually has no safety mechanism to protect the local religions.â┚¬Ã‚ These organisations have close relations with Western governments and business establishments. The only change is that the Whites have been replaced by Brown and Black evangelists who attract less attention to the modus operandi.
Thus the cycle of exploitation continues. It is ironic that the same people who exploit the poor in third world use the same ill-gotten wealth to convert. To a starving man the offer of crumbs of bread is enough reason to convert. He does not understand that his benefactor is partially responsible for his predicament. In the long-term, the poor pay the ultimate price of servility and exploitation for generations to come, so well seen in Latin America and Africa. The only resistance to conversion has been in Asia, which is now targeted.
Challenge of Buddhism
Buddhism is adaptive. Being both a religion and a philosophical/ethical code, it can cross political and cultural boundaries. It is a portable religion geared to both reason and reflection. It is not divisive and offers a way to the individual to liberate himself. Freedom of thought and the proper understanding of the responsibility to oneself and ultimately to others has great appeal to the educated. Given this freedom, Buddhism is rapidly spreading in the west. Western paradigms like feminism, democracy, pragmatic individualism, moral pluralism and social activism can be accommodated in the religion which makes it more acceptable to the westerner.
Buddhist philosophy and practice is at the forefront of modern environmental movements. The Buddhist ecological perspective is embodied in the doctrine of Patticasamupadda (Dependent Co Origination), where things exist not in their own right but interdependently. It addresses humanityâ┚¬Ã¢”ž¢s hubris regarding its traditional role as conqueror of nature, a policy which contradicts the western Christian mindset that has greatly contributed to the destruction of the environment. Thus Buddhism not only is making inroads in Christianityâ┚¬Ã¢”ž¢s core population in Europe and America, but is challenging indirectly the western economic system of consumption. It will be wrong to say this philosophy is purely Buddhist; it encompasses all native Asian traditions like Hinduism, Daoism, Jainism, etc. It is best embodied in the Asian Philosophy of Harmony.
Shaku Soen, the erudite Japanese priest credited with taking Buddhism to America, who said in the late 19th century that the only hope for Buddhism was in the west. He said there was a tiger in the form of Christianity at the front door and a fox in the form of Islam at the back door, which gave no hope for Buddhists in Asia. This is only partially true. Buddhist societies have been resilient and have resisted christianisation for the last 200 years. That is why the process of christianisation is attempted with greater vigour now in the 21st century.
Buddhism is a hurdle to the continuous exploitation of natural resources in the present economic system. Hence it is a long-term threat to Christianity, as the latter is closely connected to the western economic system. Continuous dialogue between the western Buddhist and native religious societies are enlightening each other and fast bringing Buddhism into the 21st century. This Buddhist threat to the fundamental Christian objectives of domination and exploitation of natives has promoted a vicious anti-Buddhist campaign conducted subtly by the church.
Destabilization of Buddhist societies
Creating violence and then moralising is one of the WMDs used by the Christian church to destabilise native societies. The Karen rebels in Burma and Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka were well supported by the Christian church. They were in the forefront supporting the Tigers internationally. Their propaganda machines depicted the war as a fight between Buddhists and Hindus. It was not unusual to use a caricature of a Buddhist monk with an AK-47 in one hand and a grenade in the other as a tool to denigrate Buddhism in articles written in western media. This was done with a view to reinforcing the western mindset that non-western religions are dangerous cults, barbaric, primitive, intolerant and aggressive.
Having created the mayhem, they hijack the moral authority. Hoards of NGOs or human rights activists, social and medical workers etc., invade the country. The purpose is to maximally utilise the predicament of the victims for conversion. In Sri Lanka, christianisation of Hindus and Buddhists continues in the post-war situation. It is interesting that none of these organisations ever condemned the Tigers who collected money in UK and Europe to continue the violence; nor was there any vociferous condemnation of the use of child soldiers.
Natural disasters are also followed by the invasion of hoards of Christian compassionates. After the tsunami, some NGOs who arrived in Sri Lanka have still not left the country. Active conversion is still going on. The only country that resisted the Christian onslaught was Myanmar, which has been roundly condemned. Myanmar had seen the predicament of Sri Lanka.
Another modus operandi is to gain the confidence of other religions by having a â┚¬Ã‹Å“dialogueâ┚¬Ã¢”ž¢ with them. This is nothing more than a ruse to disarm the reaction of the society against christianisation.
Conversion
Organised conversation between religions and common dialogue between religions is acceptable. But organised conversion is like a trained army invading another country. These missionary armies often go into communities where there is little organised resistance or which may not even be aware of their power or motives. They take advantage of communities that are tolerant and open-minded about religion, especially those that are pluralistic like Buddhism and Hinduism, to promote their missionary agenda.
Poor destabilised Asian societies have become fertile grounds for evangelists to â┚¬Ã…“harvest soulsâ┚¬Ã‚. In Sri Lanka, societyâ┚¬Ã¢”ž¢s tolerance has exceeded its limits and violence has erupted on and off. This has become another opportunity to the Christian media to propagate the myth of Buddhist violence.
This was well-depicted in a Reuters article â┚¬Ã…“Anti Christian Sentiment Rises in Buddhist Sri Lankaâ┚¬Ã‚ which never gave an inkling of the real situation or background to the situation. Several Buddhist organisations have asked the government to formulate an anti-conversion bill, but it is yet to materialise because of pressure from the west. Evangelical conversion has progressed very rapidly in South Korea which was a Buddhist country. Now about 40-60% of the country is converted. The missionary activity that started with the Korean War has succeeded.
Anti Buddhist Propaganda
Apart from conversion, valiant attempts have been made to denigrate Buddhism. Missionary bodies go about distributing books and pamphlets ridiculing Buddhism and praising Christianity. Buddhist converts are made to destroy Buddhist images and insult the religion before being accepted into the faith.
The recent publication of â┚¬Ã…“Buddhist Warfareâ┚¬Ã‚ by Michael Jerryson and Mark Juergensmeyer is another attempt at discrediting the non-violent aspect of Buddhism. Depicted in a write-up by Katherine Wharton as â┚¬Ã…“The Dark side of what is often thought to be the most peaceful of all religions,â┚¬Ã‚ it debunks the faith. Incidentally, Katherine Wharton has organised the India programme of the Archbishop of Canterbury and the recent conference between Hindu and Christian leaders in Bangalore.
The Response
Domination, exploitation and destruction of native societies is the hidden agenda of christianization. Unless native governments and religious organisations are aware of this, the poverty and cannibalisation of Asian societies will continue. It is imperative that if Asian religions and culture are to survive, there must be a response to this missionary onslaught. Let us hope there will not be any more South Koreas.
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Prasad / December 23, 2013
Jim Stupidity,
This particular thread on this forum is discussing about Buddhism practised in Sri Lanka and NOT about any other religions. When it discuss about other religions you can bring all what you have (cut & paste) for discussion but right now, please do not waste this cyber space by pasting all those non-relavent rubbish. Stick to the subject and counter argue if you have the capacity.
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JimSofty / December 23, 2013
PRASAD the IDiot.
This so-called buddhist woman can not distinguish buddhism or Sinhala Buddhist culture.
Because, her parents were buddhists she thinks that she is buddhist. what ever it is, she had been educated in the european culture and european values based on Christian ideology.
she is just a confused woman who would bash Sinhala buddhists and Buddhism because Muslims, LTTE rump and the Christian NGOs want it that way.
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Prasad / December 27, 2013
Jim Stupidity
Looks like you are a member of the Sinhala-Buddhist NGO which is paying people to write nonsense against non-SinhalaBuddhists.
Sharmini has very clearly distinguished between True Buddhism and Anti-Buddhism that the Sinhala-Buddhists practice in the name of Buddhist culture.
Sinhala Buddhist culture should be in par with Buddhism, if it is against what Buddha has preached, then how can you call it a Buddhism or Buddhist culture???
Just because your parents were Buddhists who were practising an anti-Buddhist culture, and if you do not have the grey matter within your skull to think which is wrong and which is right (what Sharmini is doing) it is better for people like you to stick to the caution what she has stated at the begining of her article.
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Kirthi / December 23, 2013
Great analysis, Jim. This says all about the aggression towards Buddhists and our culture. [Edited out]
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umbalakada / December 23, 2013
This guy Kirthi commenting on this thread is one Kirthi Jayasekera.
Early this year, when the BBS was playing havoc against Muslims & Christians, Sharmini wrote several articles to CT, in defense of those being attacked.
Kirthi has managed to get hold of Sharmini’s email address and started stalking her with threatening emails.
I’m told, that Sharmini has saved all those emails sent by Kirthi and she has advised those close to her, that in the event she disappears or meets with a fatal “accident”, this guy Kirthi Jayasekera, who appears to be demented, must be considered a prime suspect.
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Bandara / December 23, 2013
Good piece of writing. This educates and analyses the true story of Buddhism. In Sri Lanka, PBS and politicians talk that they safeguard the religion by destroying and vandalizing the monuments of other religions. Even wherever there is a place, they keep a statue of Lord Buddha. Therefore, we ourselves degrading our own faith. In reality,the so called religious guardians are the people who never follow the Buddhism and preaching others. I think, this articles should be translated in to Sinhala and publish in Sri Lankan papers so that the normal masses could understand the reality and they will also educate by themselves, I hope.
BPS is not a guardian of our religion. They are curse to us with all IRCS, womanizers , drunkards are the members of this organisation. So, how could they promote the religion. By BPS activities, we are the laughing stock for the followers of the other religions.
Bandara
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JimSofty / December 23, 2013
Other religions are in a war to expand in the Asia.
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Wimal_Modawansa / December 30, 2013
To Sach, Kirthi, Jim Softy and all those insulting Sharmini on this thread.This is my response to them-
One day Buddha was walking through a village. A very angry and rude young man came up and began insulting him. “You have no right teaching others,” he shouted. “You are as stupid as everyone else. You are nothing but a fake.” Buddha was not upset by these insults. Instead he asked the young man “Tell me, if you buy a gift for someone, and that person does not take it, to whom does the gift belong?” The man was surprised to be asked such a strange question and answered, “It would belong to me, because I bought the gift.” The Buddha smiled and said, “That is correct. And it is exactly the same with your anger. If you become angry with me and I do not get insulted, then the anger falls back on you. You are then the only one who becomes unhappy, not me. All you have done is hurt yourself.” “If you want to stop hurting yourself, you must get rid of your anger and become loving instead. When you hate others, you yourself become unhappy. But when you love others, everyone is happy.” ― Since Shamini is not accepting it will belong to you -Sach, Kirthi, Jim Softy and all those insulting Sharmini.
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JimSofty / December 23, 2013
CHRISTIANs are questioning SINHALA – BUDDHIST CIVILIZATION.
They don’t want to understand that CHRISTIANITY is completely a fiction.
Seethe Resurrection could not have ever happened. IF Jesus could resurrect himself and could go to heaven why he did not have miracle powers to save himself from ROMANs.
IT is all Roman emperoros creating a political religion out of a HUAMNITARIAN movement to save poor from the ROMANs.
THIS SCOUNDREL – SS, is doing all selling to muslims, to LTTE rmup to the Christian NGOS [Edited out]
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Amarasiri / December 23, 2013
Jim Softy and Avatars,
“Caution- The following is more suitable for the broad-minded and the wise. Others are kindly advised to pass!”
Ms. Shamani Serasingla is trying to save pure Buddhism from the Mahanama Sinhala Buddhist Racism introduced 1,000 years after Buddha, which most, NOT all Sinhala “Buddhists” in Sri Lanka follow blindly, and she is trying to correct this innovation of the monks in the Name of Buddha.
She is pointing out the adulteration and bastardization of the grue Buddha doctrine by Monk Mahanama, and the innovations and imaginations of Racist Monk Mahanama.
Can’t you get it?
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K.A Sumanasekera / December 23, 2013
Merry X Mas and Happy New Year to you….
And the Blessings of the Triple Gem to your Guru Ms Serasinghe….
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Native Vedda / December 24, 2013
K.A Sumanasekera
Stupid man
The accepted greetings now is “Happy Holidays”.
Happy shopping holidays.
Happy booze holidays.
Happy package holidays.
You are still stuck in your old British mindset.
Move on with changing times.
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Rationalist / December 26, 2013
Sumane and others, why do you keep harping on about the “Triple Gem”? A Triple Gem means One Gem divided into Three. “Thunuruvan” does not translate into “Triple Gem” but to “Three Jewels”! They are three different things, The Buddha, The Dhamma and The Sangha; Not the Christian concept of ‘Three in One and One in Three’, as in “The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost”! I hope you can understand the difference.
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sach / December 26, 2013
ruwan in Sinhala means gem. just saying!
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Rationalist / December 27, 2013
Sach, Ruwan also means Jewel. ‘Three Jewels’ sounds better to me than ‘Three Gems’!
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sach / December 27, 2013
You initially said, “Thunuruvan” does not translate into “Triple Gem. It was not a matter with how it sounds as you say now. Jewel doesn’t mean gem or ruwan.
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Rationalist / December 28, 2013
Sach, Look up A Dictionary.
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sach / January 2, 2014
still you were wrong on ruwan right? :) though you changed your stance later.
jewel in dictionary
a. A precious stone; a gem.
b. A small natural or artificial gem used as a bearing in a watch.
2. A costly ornament of precious metal or gems.
3. One that is treasured or esteemed
yes jewel can mean gem, but the most often used one is the (2). Still you were wrong on Ruwan. And i corrected my error did you?
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Wimal_Modawansa / December 30, 2013
To Sach, Kirthi, Jim Softy and all those insulting Sharmini on this thread.This is my response to them-
One day Buddha was walking through a village. A very angry and rude young man came up and began insulting him. “You have no right teaching others,” he shouted. “You are as stupid as everyone else. You are nothing but a fake.” Buddha was not upset by these insults. Instead he asked the young man “Tell me, if you buy a gift for someone, and that person does not take it, to whom does the gift belong?” The man was surprised to be asked such a strange question and answered, “It would belong to me, because I bought the gift.” The Buddha smiled and said, “That is correct. And it is exactly the same with your anger. If you become angry with me and I do not get insulted, then the anger falls back on you. You are then the only one who becomes unhappy, not me. All you have done is hurt yourself.” “If you want to stop hurting yourself, you must get rid of your anger and become loving instead. When you hate others, you yourself become unhappy. But when you love others, everyone is happy.” ― Since Shamini is not accepting it will belong to you -Sach, Kirthi, Jim Softy and all those insulting Sharmini.
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K.A Sumanasekera / December 23, 2013
Sinhala Buddhist bashing Brigades have come from all four corners of the planet to say Halleluja to Ms Serasinghe..
This is festive season to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ who sacrificed his life on behalf of the poor and the oppressed Jews, Africans, and Arabs.who were suffering under the White Romans as slaves..
Surely there can’t be Christians among these 355 commentators , because talking bad about other religions, let alone bashing their beliefs and practices is not in line with good Christian thinking…
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Native Vedda / December 24, 2013
K.A Sumanasekera
“This is festive season to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ who sacrificed his life on behalf of the poor and the oppressed Jews, Africans, and Arabs.who were suffering under the White Romans as slaves.”
You mean you want Vellala Wiggy to sacrifice his life on behalf of the poor and the oppressed Sinhalese, Tamils, Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Jews, who have been suffering under the Aryan Sinhala/Buddhists as slaves?
The way things are Wiggy too might end up on a cross. I have no doubt that you will be the first one to physically crucify him. Mind you he has a long beard and piercing pair of eyes and his sermons are good at times.
Blond hair, blue eyes and ginger beard are the missing accessories.
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K.A Sumanasekera / December 23, 2013
Happiness and Joy to Ms Derasinghe and her loyalists.. , Peace , Harmony and a little more Prosperity to our inhabitants , the great majority of whom are the rural poor
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Native Vedda / December 24, 2013
K.A Sumanasekera
” Peace , Harmony and a little more Prosperity to our inhabitants”
Census Department is cooking up growth rate. The great majority of rural poor inhabitants aren’t sure what the fuss is all about.
They haven’t had a pay rise in years while they hear stories about rag to riches politicians, clan, its cronies and drug dealers who are at the heart of the state bureaucracy.
Happy Holidays
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BBS Rep / December 23, 2013
Hmmm the fault lies with the belief that the Human is capable of reason. And that somehow the human can work out what is right and what is wrong and live by a code of conduct that benefits all.
The fact is humans are evolving animals. Only 250,000 years ago a distinct deviation in the evolutionary processes of the primates resulted in the Homo erectus. Only 30,000 or so years ago our ancestor, the Neanderthal became extinct. Writers such as Sharmini are deluded into believing that the homo sapien, in its evolutionary juncture today, is some kind of a higher beast capable of reason and the widespread application of such reason.
Come off it Sharmini. Look around you. We think what we think, we talk what we talk and independent to all such, we do what we do. Our actions are rarely governed by notions of morality. All our activities are moulded around the animal need to survive and propagate the species. Applying reason to live and let live is still beyond the capacity of the ever evolving genus, homo sapien sapien. All religions including all forms of Buddhism, philosophies, tall tales, poetry, literature and such are opiates to while away the free time. No more no less.
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Palmsquirrell / December 24, 2013
Speak for yourself; because there are a lot of humans who have risen above the mentality of the jungle and are compassionate and empahtetic towards others and animals.
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hela / December 23, 2013
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hela / December 23, 2013
Mahawamsa is not a Buddhist text though written by a Buddhist monk. It’s a chronicle or an epic written about the Island of Sri Lanka and it’s people at a certain time. It provides great insight into the history, culture, beliefs of the ancient people who inhabited the island. Scholars such as Geiger have understood and written in detail of the great value of Mahawamsa in it’s proper context and not as a Buddhist text.
If Sharmini is interested in learning about Buddhism she should read thripitaka like most Buddhists in the country do.
Mahawamsa is not read or recited in Buddhist temples in their day to day rituals/practices. It is not recited even during poya days which are holy days of Buddhists in Sri Lanka. So how does Mahawamsa influence Buddhist practices in Sri Lanka?
Therefore Sharmini’s utterences have no basis.
She seems to have an agenda in somehow discrediting Buddhists, Sinhala people and their historical literature such as Mahawamsa.
Gullible non Buddhists would readily swallow this rubbish though analytical and logical minds would easily find the folly.
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Burning_Issue / December 23, 2013
Hela,
It is well documented that the Mahavamsa has been used in the context of the Sinhala Buddhist Revivalism spearheaded by Anagariga Tharmapala! It is used to indoctrinate the Sinhala Buddhists that they are the true owners of the Island and all the others are tolerated as long as they do not challenge the superior status of the Sinhala Buddhists!
Sharmini has not discredited Buddhism; far from it, she attacked the Mahavamsa mind-set. If you do not know what that is, you are in complete denial! It is not just the “Gullible non Buddhists” but also many Sinhala Buddhist Scholars spoke about this and documented about the disastrous effect on the quest of nation building in Sri Lanka.
“So how does Mahawamsa influence Buddhist practices in Sri Lanka?”
If you were to refer to the school history texts, you will come to know! It is time you open your eyes and see what is really wrong in Sri Lanka!
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sach / December 24, 2013
so what is wrong in a sinhala buddhist revivalism? it started as a counter attack for christian missionaries and colonialism. Didnt arumuga navalar do the same for tamil hindus. Didnt he criticise and even worked against the christians? So dharmapala is a man who came to the front as a necessity of that time? What is wrong in being proud of ones’ history
No matter how you hate mahawamsa it is the most important historical text in sl. It is not sone mythical books like ramayana and mahabharata. The historical value of mahavamsa is very very high. You cant talk about history of sri lanka without talking about mahawamsa
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Wimal_Modawansa / December 26, 2013
Sach is a coward attached to a drama group by the name “Jana …………” which dances to the tune of politicians .He claims that he is intelligent. He is a regular contributor to Gossip sites such as “Go…. La…..”where he claims that he makes sensations and creates sympathy. Most of his comments, if not all , are more suited for gossip sites. He can be contacted on [Edited out] .He is a dump ( if i use the exact word it will be edited out) and a coward. Now he is contributing to this thread using the name Rohitha.
Our country needs Dumps and cowards like him to make sensations and create sympathy especially when the elections are around.
Please wish him well in his future endeavours.
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sach / December 26, 2013
Are you the real wimal modawamsa. You two look very similar
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Burning_Issue / December 28, 2013
Such,
There is nothing at all wrong with Buddhist revivalism; it is totally understandable in the context of the pushy missionaries supported by the colonial powers. The fight that started against Christianity has been snowballed into a Sinhala Buddhist nationalistic force that mutated when swrd taking advantage of that force. It never relented as it extended the fight against the Tamils and Muslims. According to the followers, the Mahavamsa authenticates their believe that the Sinhala Buddhists are the true owners of the island. The effect of this is that all minorities are deemed as invaders!
What do you think that drove the policies such as the Sinhala Only and giving Buddhism the foremost place in Sri Lankan Constitution? Have the minorities been consulted on any of the these? No! These policies have been thrust on them whether they like it or not. The justification for these divisive acts lay on the Mahavamsa mind-set! By the way, the Buddhist revivalism is still afoot until the whole country is pained with Buddhist flavour and all the minorities have been completely subjugated! I am sure they will find something else afterwards.
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sach / January 2, 2014
Yes the Buddhist revivalism became too strong and created into a much nationalistic force. The literature written at that time would be evidence to it. And yes politicians used it but that doesnt mean Mahavamsa is wrong or Budhist revivalism is wrong. The people should have the intelligence to stop where it should stop. Between there was a Mahavamsa bashing started by GG Ponnambalam and kalu suddas (like Shamini) which could have strengthened Sinhala nationalistic drive.
What happened in SL is a chain of effects. You cant single out one and say it is wrong.
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Hela / December 26, 2013
BI,
sach has given the answer to your queries.
Again you try to mix things and mislead readers. You talk about school history texts. I repeat they are not Buddhist texts.
Because we keep our eyes wide open we see through the agenda of Sinhala Buddhist haters of Shamini’s ilk. We continue to expose them.
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Burning_Issue / December 28, 2013
Hela,
Your alias is very revealing? You do not need to say anything as your alias says it all! I am afraid Such does not understand as to what the Mahavamsa mind-set is; the people like him have been completely devoured by this destructive force and he cannot see wood from trees. It is going to be a slow progress to gradually change his mind-set. There is some hope for him but as for you there is no hope at all!
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sach / January 2, 2014
There is nothing called mahavamsa mind set. There is not even 50 sinhalese who have read mahavamsa. Also you cant remove mahavamsa and talk about SL history. Mahavamsa talks about invading armies and invasions. So Mahavamsa records history. Being knowledgable in history will make people realize what happened so it creates bad blood that is what you point at calling Mahavamsa mindset.
The reason many eelamists bash mahavamsa is because it is an obstruction to many of their claims.
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Burning_Issue / January 2, 2014
You singlehandedly trying whitewash many scholarly works on the very subject! If you want to walk around completely blinkered in denial please by my guest! Your first task to accept the issue then only you can seek remedy!
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sach / January 5, 2014
what are the scholarly works around? stuff like sharminis? I understand mahavamsa contributed to strengthening the national consciousnous of sinhala people. I have no problem with critiquing Mahavamsa. The initial part of making SL a country which preserve buddhism and blessed by Buddha are just lies. No Sinhala believes in it. Same time it is wrong to say Sl belongs only to Sinhalese based on it. There are things that Mahavamsa can be criticised. Sharmini hasnt touched that aspect instead goes on bashing buddhists and their rituals which has nothing to do with mahavamsa.
Actually Suresh in the comment section has a better criticism on Mahavamsa than the writer. But saying it has transformed the sinhala psychic to that is wrong and ignorant. The thinking pattern of Sinhala people doesnt depend on Mahavamsa. So talking about a mahavamsa mindset is wrong.
At the same time mahavamsa though it has mythical section is a VERY important history text in SL. There is no doubt on it. The information it has regarding SL history is huge and can never be undermined. The ones who talk about a Mahavamsa mentality and its mythical sections do it deliberately to undermine the significance Mahavamsa has as a history book.
Mahavamsa can be critiqued and should be critiqued. But it should be with a thorough understanding of the subject and the historical perspective. Sharmini’s critique is not a critique at all it is simply a childish bashing of people and a book. There is no sense in what she writes, that is the problem.
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Prasad / December 24, 2013
Hela
Please read the comment above by Ravi and the link he has provided to the Mahavamsa.
According to the Mahavamsa, the Buddha was a Terrorist. What an insult to Buddha. Sharmini is 100% right in saying Mahavamsa is an Insult To The Buddha.
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Hela / December 26, 2013
Prasad,
Can you please quote the text in Mahavamsa which depicts Buddha as terrorist?
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Prasad / December 27, 2013
Please read the Mahavamsa chapter 1, Ravi has provided the link, you will see the following:
“To this great gathering of that yakkhas went the Blessed One, and there, in the midst of that assembly, hovering in the air over their heads, at the place of the (future) Mahiyangana-thupa, he struck terror to their hearts by rain, storm, darkness and so forth.’ The yakkhas, overwhelmed by fear, besought the fearless Van quisher to release them from terrors, and the Vanquisher, destroyer of fear, spoke thus to the terrified yakkhas: `I will banish this your fear and your distress, O yakkhas, give ye here to me with one accord a place where I may sit down. ‘The yakkhas thus answered the Blessed One: `We all, O Lord, give you even the whole of our island.”
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sach / January 2, 2014
identifying their religious leaders with supernatural powers is something all religious people do. It might have no sense but still not wrong. And about stricking terror it has more literature value.
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I am no muslim / December 24, 2013
hela,
We have been trying to communicate to Shamini and her elk on this (Mahawamsa is no religious text), but to no avail. Their aim is nothing but to sling mud at the Sinhala Buddhists. Sinhalas have no choice: They have to unite and protect this government at all cost as the only way to defeat them.
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umbalakada / December 26, 2013
@I am no muslim,
Sharmini takes care of many animals but an ‘elk’ is not amongst them :-)
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Mahadana Muththa (Jnr) / December 27, 2013
@I am no muslim,
“Their aim is nothing but to sling mud at the Sinhala Buddhists. Sinhalas have no choice: They have to unite and protect this government at all cost as the only way to defeat them.”
So you are nothing but another Rajapaksa arse-licker, like Jim Softy, K.A.Sumanasekera, Banda, Vibushana, Hela etc
You guys are the epitome of Sinhala chauvinistic Mahavamsa-Buddhism!
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Swarna Bandara / December 23, 2013
I am just curious to find out how this lady would want to send her son to Sunday school, when she had a such bad experience with buddhist school. She needs to read history before she can critique it. I also would like to know her qualification to challenge Mahawansa?
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Kirthi / December 23, 2013
[Edited out]
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umbalakada / December 23, 2013
This guy Kirthi commenting on this thread is one Kirthi Jayasekera.
Early this year, when the BBS was playing havoc against Muslims & Christians, Sharmini wrote several articles to CT, in defense of those being attacked.
Kirthi has managed to get hold of Sharmini’s email address and started stalking her with threatening emails.
I’m told, that Sharmini has saved all those emails sent by Kirthi and she has advised those close to her, that in the event she disappears or meets with a fatal “accident”, this guy Kirthi Jayasekera, who appears to be demented, must be considered a prime suspect.
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Burning_Issue / December 23, 2013
Can you objectively critique the author on what she has written instead of querying about her qualification? What qualification do you have to say Mahavamsa is correct though some aspects of the historical references corroborate with some established instances. It is basically a series of texts that have been accumulated around the time when Buddhism was in decline in South India; hence, one can detect a form of paranoia emphasising the need to protect Buddhism!
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kattakarawala / December 23, 2013
Swarna Bandara,
“I am just curious to find out how………..”
Do you know what happened to the cat that got too curious?
If you have too much time to spare, better focus on improving your English. Your Grammar is atrocious.
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Rationalist / December 24, 2013
Swarna Bandara:- Her qualification is her ability to think Rationally, and comment logically, using the facts placed before her.
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Hela / December 26, 2013
Rationalist,
This woman writer doesn’t have any facts in front of her. There is a burning hatred inside her which she is vomiting here and CT is providing the publicity as per CT’s own agenda.
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Prasad / December 26, 2013
What she has written is all facts. People like you should first read the caution before reading further.
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Sandy / December 23, 2013
” In the same way, the chief priests, the teachers of the law and the elders mocked Him.
“He saved others,” they said, ” but he can’t save himself! ..in the
same way the robbers who were crucified with him also heaped
insults on Him.” – Holy Bible-
Jim, He did not – not could not – save Himself, because by His death
He came to SAVE sinners like you and me.
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Kirthi / December 23, 2013
I’m sorry to say Colombo telegraph is so blind to these idiotic articles, [Edited out]
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Javi / December 23, 2013
“Out Of Sight, Out Of Mind”
Neither Power,Lust nor Stupidity is any good motives.
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umbalakada / December 23, 2013
This guy Kirthi commenting on this thread is one Kirthi Jayasekera.
Early this year, when the BBS was playing havoc against Muslims & Christians, Sharmini wrote several articles to CT, in defense of those being attacked.
Kirthi has managed to get hold of Sharmini’s email address and started stalking her with threatening emails.
I’m told, that Sharmini has saved all those emails sent by Kirthi and she has advised those close to her, that in the event she disappears or meets with a fatal “accident”, this guy Kirthi Jayasekera, who appears to be demented, must be considered a prime suspect.
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yako / December 23, 2013
Dear CT,
Only 2 comments are displayed out of 403.
@Yako, just fixed the issue – thank you so much – CT
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Nirmalan Dhas / December 23, 2013
I am now aware that there is at least one person in Sri Lanka who has some idea of what Siddhartha Gautama tried (and failed) to transmit to the human species.
If there are others – which I very much doubt despite your claims to the contrary – the task of building a ‘buddhist’ (awakened) culture that embraces, nurtures and nourishes all others and facilitates human evolution is theirs. This is not a task for politicians and others who are driven by lust.
If there are such others I would like to meet them.
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J.Thavarajah. / December 23, 2013
Sharmini,
A Brilliant piece again.Thank you.Your essays attract the most number of responses.Perhaps for the forthright analysis.The author of the Mahavamsa in attempting to extol the virtues of Buddhism has damaged this great Doctrine which spread througout Asia.The monk Mahanama is also the cause for the crisis in this country amongst the communities.A new authentic History is the need.
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Rodney Arambewela / December 24, 2013
Excellent analysis of the dilemma and challenges facing Buddhism in Sri Lanka. Buddhist doctrine has been misinterpreted and misused for personal gain by buddhist monks and the politicians and no party is willing to do anything to propogate the true teachings of Buddha.
Rod
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Netizen / December 24, 2013
The problem is that most Buddhists, and those of other religions, take things a little too literally – to really understand buddhism, you have to cut through the surface of the language and get to the heart of the message – then you see its beauty and its gentle wisdom. Like most buddhist and other spiritual texts, much of the descriptions are metaphorical: An example from this article, “The Buddha walked out of his mother’s womb, and walked seven steps, while lotuses blossomed, under his feet!.. could be a metaphor to the fact that when the Buddha was born, his seven treasures were already purified. He was in fact a very pure being who had negated all his non-virtuous minds. Lotuses, as we know, are symbolic of purity – that they rise above the mud and bloom. The whole Buddhist philosophy is based on this – it teaches us to rise above the mud of our mind, that entrenches us in hatred, virulence (unfortunately so obvious in the comments in this column) and other non-virtuous actions caused by ignorance about the true nature of existence and which mires us in repeated samsaric cycles. To find out what the seven treasures are, do an online search and you will find plenty of resources that will open your mind. Here is such an example from http://www.buddhanet.net/wings_a.htm:
“The seven sets have played an important role throughout the history of Buddhism, in all of its various branches. They provided the framework for the earliest Abhidhamma texts, systematic presentations of the doctrine that were added to the early Canons a few centuries after the Buddha’s passing away. They were also part of the first Buddhist text translated into Chinese, and later came to exemplify “Hinayana” teachings in T’ien-t’ai and other Chinese doctrinal systems. Tantric Buddhism features mandalas containing 37 deities, symbolic of the 37 factors making up the seven sets. Tibetan architecture, probably following the treatises of the medieval Indian universities, identifies the various parts of standard stupa design as symbols of the seven sets. Thus the Wings provide one of the few common threads that, in actual or symbolic form, run through all the traditions claiming descent from the Buddha….”
“…A related consideration may be that the number seven, in the seven sets, was symbolic of treasure. The sea, in the time of the Buddha, was said to have seven treasures [§18], and the universal monarch was said to have seven treasures that formed his spontaneous regalia [M.129]. The Buddha explicitly borrows this number symbolism when he states that the seven sets are the treasures of his teaching.
“Another possibility, which we have already noted [I/A], is that musicians in the Buddha’s time recognized seven systems for tuning the musical scale-all other systems being rejected as discordant-and the Buddha may have borrowed this numerical symbolism to suggest that his teachings formed a complete guide to all the possible ways in which a Samana-a person in tune (sama)-could tune his or her mind to the truth.
“From a less historical and more practical point of view, the important question about the seven sets is how they fit into the general plan of Buddhist practice. Their role is most succinctly stated in §25: the development of the seven sets follows on the development of virtue and leads naturally into the development of transcendent discernment, thus filling the role that other passages assign to concentration practice. This suggests-and again, the suggestion is borne out by passages that deal with the issue in more detail-that the seven sets are to be developed in the course of a concentration practice based on a moral life and aimed at the development of discernment. When §23 ends its list of preconditions for the practice of the seven sets with four meditation practices-actually three, as the perception of inconstancy is an integral part of mindfulness of in-and-out breathing-it is simply listing the concentration practices most frequently recommended in the texts as focal points for developing the skills of the seven sets. Nevertheless, although the seven sets focus most specifically on the practice of concentration, the close interconnections among virtue, concentration, and discernment mean that the sets include the factors of virtue and discernment as well, thus encompassing the entire path of Buddhist practice….” etc etc
Main thing is be open minded, cut your own ignorance, and do the Buddha a favour – use the Buddha’s nobel texts to kill your own ignorance, but not to kill and humiliate each other!
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Off the Cuff / January 4, 2014
Dear Netizen,
I disagree with your explanation of the “Buddha walking out of the Mothers womb …..” statement of Sharmini’s. I find it disgusting, especially coming from a Lady who claims she is a disciple of the highly respected Ven Piyadassi.
My reasons are set out here https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/comment-page-4/#comment-833411
Kind Regards,
OTC
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Kirthi / December 24, 2013
Thanks to kattakaluwara and umbalakada, who are the CT for running publicity for me. If it is not CT how can it appear in all places. Don’t try to scare me off the forum. If there is adverse comments or article about my country or our culture, that would bring disrepute to the country or to countries security, I will all ways stand up. We are not the type to betray or bum suck any body for gains. Don’t mistake me for a government goon, on many occasions I have written against the wrongs and have asked for investigations. I don’t have to prove or ask for recognition from a bankrupt institute who are always against the country. Do what you can, I will not stop criticizing what I feel is wrong, after all forums are there for that. You should not expect people to always approve what you publish. Again thanks for the publicity.
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umbalakada / December 24, 2013
This guy Kirthi commenting on this thread is one Kirthi Jayasekera.
Early this year, when the BBS was playing havoc against Muslims & Christians, Sharmini wrote several articles to CT, in defense of those being attacked.
Kirthi has managed to get hold of Sharmini’s email address and started stalking her with threatening emails.
I’m told, that Sharmini has saved all those emails sent by Kirthi and she has advised those close to her, that in the event she disappears or meets with a fatal “accident”, this guy Kirthi Jayasekera, who appears to be demented, must be considered a prime suspect.
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Armchair Analyst / December 24, 2013
Kirthi,
Are you the Mahawamsa mascot?
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Brian Senewiratne / December 24, 2013
I do not know Sharmini Serasinghe. As a half-Buddhist myself (my mother is a Buddhist from Galle), all i can say is that this is the finest article on the Mahavamsa i have ever read. It is outstanding and should be widely circulated to save Buddhism, one of the great teachings in the world.
I have repeatedly referred to the Mahavamsa in many writings as “The Textbook of Sinhala ethno-religious chauvinism”, worse still, a dreadful document that has destroyed Buddhism in Sri Lanka. it is now destroying Sri Lanka itself.
I am so glad that people like Mrs Serasinghe exist. All i can say is “Thank You” for a doing an outstanding job and doing it so well
Brian Senewiratne
bsenewiratne@gmail.com
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I am no muslim / December 24, 2013
Hillarious! A half-Buddhist (and a committed separatist) who think Buddhism is one of the great teachings in the world trying to save it. Not worth writing to you direct, you [Edited out].
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Native Vedda / December 25, 2013
I am no muslim
In the past English speaking half Christians had converted to Sinhala/Buddhism for the sake of achieving political power, not because they wanted to save Buddhism but used Sinhala/Buddhism to further their career in politics.
Unbecoming a Buddhists in thoughts, words and deeds helps many to hold on to what is impermanent. Unbecoming a Buddhists also mean committing mass murder, corruption, stealing, white vanning, and other criminal acts.
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K.A Sumanasekera / December 25, 2013
This tick from one of the God Father’s of the LTTE Leader for a despicable attack on Sinhala Buddhism and its history by a Sinhala Christan, says it all … Doesn’t it.
I feel sorry for the Sinhala Buddhist mum, as a fellow Gallian…
Have a Merry X Mas and a few VBs, courtesy of the Tax Payer and leave the poor Sinhala Buddhists alone to live in peace and harmony in the coming year..to make it five consecutive years since Nanthikadal…..
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Kirthi / December 25, 2013
Exactly this shows it all, how these anti Sinhala diaspora elements get together in flock, and bash anything Sinhala, religion , culture or traditions. Hope people in the forum are smart enough to recognize the characters as Mr. Sumanasekera has done.
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Bindu / December 24, 2013
As a former Roman Catholic, I find many similarities between Catholicism and Sinhala-Buddhism-
The Bible – Catholics believe that truth is found in the Bible, as interpreted by the church, but also found in church tradition; Sinhala-Buddhists believe that truth is found in the Mahavamsa, as interpreted by the temple, but also found in Sinhala-Buddhist tradition.
Authority Within the Church – Catholics believe the authority of the church lies within the hierarchy of the church; Sinhala-Buddhists believe the authority of the temple lies within the hierarchy of the temple.
Forgiveness of Sin – Catholics believe forgiveness of sin is achieved through church ritual; Sinhala-Buddhists believe forgiveness of sin is achieved through temple rituals.
Heaven and Hell – Catholics believe in heaven and hell; Sinhala-Buddhists also believe in hell (Apaya) and heaven (Diviya Loke).
Immaculate Conception of Mary – Roman Catholics believe that Mary conceived Jesus, without ‘original sin’; Sinhala-Buddhists also believe Prince Siddhartha was conceived without ‘original sin’.
Statues – Catholics pray to statues, images and symbols; so do Sinhala-Buddhists.
Prayer – Catholics pray to God; Sinhala-Buddhists pray to the Buddha.
Visibility of the Church – The Catholic Church recognizes the hierarchy of the church; Sinhala-Buddhists recognize the hierarchy of the temple.
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Hela / December 26, 2013
Bindu,
Before you write things, please read about them and try to understand.
Without complicating your task. I would like you to first read a book called Dhammapada (which is a poetic collection of Buddhist teachings in brief).
After that you may try to read Suthra pitaka which is a collection of dialogues involving Lord Buddha or His preaching.
You might then beginning to understand what Buddhism is and the difference between Buddhism and Mahawamsa (not to mention some important differences between Buddhism and other religions. I am trying to show a pathway to gain more knowledge and not intending to criticise Roman Catholicism or any other religion).
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Bindu / December 26, 2013
Hela,
Thank you mate.
My Guru, the late Piyaassi Maha Thera (also Sharmini’s Guru) taught us the difference between Buddhism and the Mahawamsa, very clearly.
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Javi / December 26, 2013
“|”Catholicism and Sinhala-Buddhism- “|”
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Binduuuu???
The Holy “One of the Three Pure Ones”.
Olay olay, 6th Cent.BC Tào Té Chīng
Laozi 6th century BCE) was a philosopher of ancient China, best known as the author of the Tao Te Ching. His association with the Tào Té Chīng has led him to be traditionally considered the founder of philosophical Taoism (pronounced as “Daoism”). He is also revered as a deity in most religious forms of Taoist philosophy.
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Some of Laozi’s famous sayings include:
“When goodness is lost, it is replaced by morality.”
“The usefulness of a pot comes from its emptiness.”
“The best people are like water, which benefits all things and does not compete with them. It stays in lowly places that others reject. This is why it is so similar to the Way.”
“When people see some things as beautiful, other things become ugly. When people see some things as good, other things become bad.”
“Try to change it and you will ruin it. Try to hold it and you will lose it.”
“The more that laws and regulations are given prominence, the more thieves and robbers there will be.”
—Laozi, Tao Te Ching. (^O^)
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Rationalist / December 27, 2013
Ven Piyadassi Thero explained “Punaruthpaththi” to me thus:- He Compared the Life Energy released at Death, to a Radio Signal which is picked up by a suitable Receiver, a Foetus!
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Abhaya / December 27, 2013
you are a total idiot . buddhisum has nothing in common with any of the nonsense you are talking about . it is not s religion of gods
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Kirthi / December 24, 2013
I didn’t know that CT runs banners in the thread. Can we pass on some advertisements please. What are your charges, and how often do they appear?
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gamini / December 24, 2013
Sharmini you have hit the nail where it hurts most on these Labeled Olcot/Anagarika Buddhists in this country. If these Buddhists lived during the time when Buddha was living, I wonder what they would have done to Devadatte? Probably they would have killed him, much to the surprise of Buddha himself. What a thread with over almost five hundred comments, a record for you to be proud off.
If I may add a few more points to what you have said, Jainism is much older to Buddhism and even Hinduism. Many practices of Jainism has filtered down to Hinduism and Buddhism. It has been a practice of the early Jaine’s, when their cult leader died to eat a small piece of the dead body to draw inspiration. This practice has been abhorred after some time and the habit of retaining relics of the dead, teeth, hair or pieces of bone for veneration has been adopted. Therefore the present practice of venerating a supposed canine tooth of the Buddha is purely a Jaine custom.
Buddha was a Nepalese. Nepalese were a short mountain race with an average height of around a five feet then. Therefore the canine tooth supposedly believed to be that of the Buddha, his bone structure should stand over at least over fifteen feet in height. There is no such height of a person leave alone the Buddha, in the recorded History of mankind.
As Sharmini states, it is common to see during Wesak, seven Lotus flowers starting with a smaller flower to a large one where stands a small infant in the centre in robe. As we all know, Prince Siddhartha wore a robe when he left the lay life at twenty nine and not before. So what a hoax and fibs are believed to be part of Buddhism?
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Rationalist / December 25, 2013
Gamini, watching the Christmas TV Broadcasts, Yesterday and Today, I would guess that the Buddhist Monks of old, would have seen how the colourful ceremonies of Christianity were taking over the Practice of Christianity and attracting increasing numbers of Buddhists. Buddhism did not have the Fanfare to attract the Masses, so the Monks would have borrowed all the Rituals from Hinduism and Christianity to keep the Masses Happy, and coming to Temples, hopefully to listen to the Dhamma. Ritual and Ceremony seems to be a Human Need!
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Kirthi / December 25, 2013
This Shows how democratic our country is . Idiots think it is the popularity of Christianity. My foot.
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sach / December 26, 2013
Of course, “Ritual and Ceremony seems to be a Human Need! “. That is a part of culture and gives rise to many forms of arts. Rituals and customs are a great thing in mankind (in any religion).
But that doesnt mean the ones who practice rituals and customs can be insulted at and called “silly people” by an equally silly woman.
And why only buddhists?
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samuel / December 25, 2013
Excellent piece.
” … It is claimed to be the left eye tooth of the Buddha which was taken from the funeral pyre of the Buddha in 543 BC, and in the early 4th century taken from India to Sri Lanka. Indian invaders in the 13th century took it back to India, but a war was fought to bring it back to Sri Lanka. In the 16th century, the Portuguese, in their efforts to convert the Sinhalese to Catholicism, took the tooth away to Goa and pounded it to dust and threw it into the sea. Some books say that the dust reconstituted itself on the sea bed and the tooth flew back to Sri Lanka of its own accord, whilst others say that what the Portuguese took to Goa was only a replica, and the real tooth is still in Kandy. Who knows what the real story is. The British opened the casket containing the tooth in 1815, and said it looked more like a crocodile’s tooth, but nowadays nobody is allowed to see the tooth as it is kept sealed inside a gold casket, inside a series of larger caskets inside a heavily guarded room in the Temple of the Tooth. I would expect that given today’s modern technology, the tooth could be tested to see if it really does date back to 543 BC and whether it is from a human being or a crocodile, but I guess nobody wants to know the answer to that in case it destroys the legend of the Tooth over which so many wars have been fought (even the Chinese went to war at one stage to try and steal the famous Tooth).
Check this out
http://www.xyzasia.com/esala-perahera-kandy/
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sach / December 26, 2013
gamini (king of contoversies and stupid reasoning) talking about commonsense is an oxymoron.
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Upali Wickramasinghe / December 24, 2013
Sharmini, I am in full agreement with the comments of Rodney Arambawela, my old friend, Prof Senanayake, Dhas and Brian Seneviratne.To me there are many unexplanable comments made in what goes as Buddhist history.(1) The Pas Maha belum- which to me appears to talk of a virgin birth,I do not believe that in a normal birth, the foetus could decipher, the time,land,land, caste and mother.(Kalaya deshaya, deepaya kulaya and mother.If the foetus could do that what was the function of the father?Secondly he left normal life after a child was born, to indicate that he left because he saw a sick man, an old man and a dead body, at that mature age, is beyond explanation.Even in the story about Dutugemunu and Elara, there are statements that are beyond the normal. Elara was 75 yrs old when he was killed by gemunu who was 25 yrs old.Whether an old man 75 yrs could have showed all that gyrations as said to be described in Mahawaamsa ( re martin Wickramasinghe and P.G.punchihewa) is beyond the normal.They talk about molten ore being poured on the elephant, even today the technology to pour such small quantities of molten ore is not available- true in factories handling ore, liquid ore flows, but then the quantities are very large.There are many such statements which are beyond comprehension.
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gamini / December 25, 2013
Upali, It is said that Prince Gauthama has been inspired to take to robes seeing a Sick Man, An Old Man, A dead Man and a Priest. Now for Twenty nine years, did not his close relatives die, grew old or fell sick? If someone tries to interpret that he has not, then his knowledge is below average and he could have never reached enlightenment.
Further it is said that he was born for the last time as a human with a purpose. That is to end his journey of Samsara. If that be so, he contradicts his purpose of birth by producing an off spring, contributing to extend life on earth? What convoluted Logic? Besides the known prince Rahula, as to how many illegitimate he would have fathered, of the semi clad women who entertained him on evenings, aptly described where he had to jump over the semi nude bodies who were asleep, the night he left the Palace to enter priesthood, is unknown.
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Hela / December 26, 2013
gamini,
That is where Buddha’s greatness lies. That he was a human being (though I am not going to speculate on illegitimate offspring of Prince Gauthama) and not a representative or a messenger of a supernatural God.
His explanations and interpretations are open to scrutiny (because He Himself invited such scrutiny). Though He did not invite slander of His teachings or others He didn’t accept (like some here try to do).
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srilal / December 25, 2013
Brilliant piece of writing Shamini , thanks very much for sharing such a sensitive issue in a very diplomatic & candid manner in a public forum , i always felt the exact same way about the sinhala Buddist version of Buddisam , at least now i know i’m not alone and feel little less guilty.
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Kirthi / December 26, 2013
If this is diplomacy she should lead in march
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srilal / December 26, 2013
sorry mate , i’ve no time to waste on your nonsense , adios !
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Bindu / December 25, 2013
@ Sach, Kirthi, Jim Softy and all those insulting Sharmini on this thread,
Like Sharmini, I too was a lay disciple of the erudite scholar monk Ven. Piyadassi Maha Thera.
When you insult Sharmini,the way you have on this thread, you are indirectly insulting our Guru- Ven. Piyadassi Maha Thera.
Because everything Sharmini has written in this article, is based on what we were taught by our learned Guru.
Furthermore, Sharmini is married to a grand-nephew of Ven. Pelene Siri Vajiragnana Nayaka Thera, under whose guidance, our Guru Ven. Piyadassi Maha Thera mastered the philosophy of Buddhism.
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Kirthi / December 25, 2013
Why should sharmini depend on piyadassi credentials to put her nonsense in to the public. You think we are naive just to go by and believe just because of a name. Piyadassi, there are so many renowned and educated monks but only piyadassi is her forte. Did only piyadassi Thera knew English.
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Hela / December 26, 2013
Well….well….
Sharmini is an insult to such great monk scholars. Luckily they are not alive today. Otherwise they will be really saddened.
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Janaka Fernando / December 25, 2013
Banda, John, sach, Kirthi, and JimSofty are harping over and over to tell us that Mahavamsa and Tripitaka are two different things, one is the Buddhist history and the other is the Buddhist scriptures and not to confuse between the two.
This is exactly what Sharmini Serasinghe is very clearly elaborating in her article. She is also telling us that even though both Mahavamsa and Tripitaka are written in a language (Pali) that the Sinhala-Buddhist laypersons cannot understand, in the name of Theravada Buddhism, the Sinhala-Buddhists have adopted various beliefs and practices that are not found in the Tripitaka but only in the Mahavamsa.
A few examples are, the Sinhala-Buddhists believe that Buddha visited Sri Lanka thrice, he blessed the island (Dhamma Deepa), he chose the Sinhala race as the sustainers of Buddhism for the next 5000 years and he chose God Vishnu to protect the Dhamma Deepa for 5000 years until the next Maithree Buddha arrive. God Vishnu is supposed to be born as the next Maithree Buddha. They also believe in Buddha’s huge footstep on Adam’s peak and the tooth at the Dalada Maligawa.
What Sharmini is advising the Sinhala-Buddhists is to adopt pure Buddhism (Tripitaka) and not Mahavamsa-Buddhism (a hybrid of both Mahavamsa and Tripitaka) as they are doing now. Buddha has very clearly said, worshipping his Dathu (tooth), the bo-tree (bodhi puja), his footstep at Adam’s peak, the Bramanical Gods (Devale), etc are all useless, it will not give any kind of salvation. Buddhism is not a belief system like other religions where you expect God to perform miracles. Unfortunately, the Sinhala-Buddhists have converted Buddhism into just another belief system and the main cause for this the Mahavamsa.
Unfortunately, those who are NOT broad-minded and wise and unable to understand the pearls that Sharmini has casted, people such as Banda, John, sach, Kirthi, and JimSofty are feeling hurt and acting like bulls in the china shop and unnecessarily bashing Sharmini for the good work she has done in trying to enlighten the Sinhala-Buddhists.
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ken robert / December 25, 2013
JF
well said.
Ken
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Kirthi / December 25, 2013
We are not bashing the perl of the Indian ocean or I may say the shining star of the Milky Way or the most precious galaxy in the universe that is Sharmani . We are worried of our mother land srilanka. Where we live and which is our home and is now in danger of being taken away from us by these NGO based aliens. That’s all. We will die for our country just as thousands of soldiers did to protect it so the shining star and the cohorts can enjoy their lives.
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Prasad / December 25, 2013
There is a saying, “Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces”.
This saying is very apt to people like Kirthi, Sach, JimSofty, Banda, and John.
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kattakarawala / December 26, 2013
Kirthi,
“We are worried of our mother land srilanka”.
You need to be worried for your mother land Sri Lanka, because of lunatics like you.
“…………. our home and is now in danger of being taken away from us by these NGO based aliens”.
So you are afraid “NGO based aliens” are going to pack up Sri Lanka into a parcel,and carry it away after dumping fools like you in the Indian ocean?
I think for the sake of Sri Lanka, it would be the best thing for this beautiful country and its people sans fools like you.
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Hela / December 26, 2013
JF,
Your defence of Sharmini doesn’t hold because both of you can’t separate a culture and a philosophy that underpins the culture.
As I mentioned earlier, Mahawamsa is not recited in Buddhist temples at any time as a Buddhist teaching. Therefore Sharmini can’t make a claim that “Who and what distorted the Buddhist philosophy, in Sri Lanka? I say firmly, the blame must be laid fair and square, at the feet of Mahanama thera, and his ‘book of Buddhist tales’- the Mahavamsa”.
Sharmini denies the historical value of Mahawamsa. By doing that Sharmini attacks the underline history that contributed to the epic Mahawamsa. This underline history is the history of Sinhala nation and it’s evolution. Accordingly, Sharmini serves the agenda of anti Sinhala forces (I am sorry to hear that this person is a disciple of Piyadassi thera).
However, Sharmini’s utterances doesn’t affect Mahawamsa’s standing among scholars and among Sinhala people. It will do the exact opposite she intends to achieve.
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Prasad / December 26, 2013
Hela
Why are you uttering nonsense???
Obviously, you should know the difference between what is recited in temples (pirith or whatever) and the sermon (Bana) preached by the Bhikkus. What Sharmini is talking about is not the recital but the sermon. I have personally withnessed several Bana where the Buddhist monks were including the Mahavamsa stories in their Bana. They even talk about Buddha’s visit to SL.
Please do not think that others are fools to believe your rubbish.
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sach / December 26, 2013
Buddhists in SL clearly know the difference between Mahavamsa and Tripitaka. One of the most hailed buddhist monks by buddhist intellectuals in SL , the author of “what the Buddha thought” was a pioneer in Tripitaka and still considered as one of the greatest buddhist scholars. Actually he started a movement to rid Buddhists in SL from rituals not relevant to Buddhism. (Read Sathyodaya).The same monk wrote the book History of Buddhism in Ceylon. So even such a knowledgable monk knew the value of Mahavamsa. Are you saying Sharmini is more knowledgable in Buddhism and Tripitaka than Walpola Rahula?
The mythical stories in Mahawamsa are rejected by many knowledgable Buddhists. The 5000 year story is rejected. Take any buddhist book in SL even a school text book, the buddhism is based on Tripitaka. But the thing is Mahawamsa is the history of Buddhism. If you ignore the mythical parts still it is the source of knowledge for history in Buddhism. So undoubtedly it has a value. So buddhists will read it and get knowledge from it. Most of her stories on Dalada Maligawa, Perahara are not mentioned in Mahawamsa. The main source of information on them are in Sandesha Kavya and in Dathuwanshaya.
Lets say all these temple of tooth relic are bogus. Still they are beliefs of a people totally harmless. If you go by this logic, all the religions that SLns practice whether it is islam, hinduism, and christianity would have to be investigated here. She doesnt do even a total sensible investigation on buddhist customs. She just throw insults calling these men and women as silly idiots. And when that is targetted only towards a ONE sect of religion that is total bias and violating their religious freedom. if the buddhists in SL do customs totally not according to buddhism or not acting on buddhist precepts, still it is a PRIVATE matter of those people. who is sharmini to make judgements on it?
That too after displaying Sharmini’s ignorance on Buddhism saying Buddha is a brahmin. Do you want such an ignorant lady to teach buddhism to buddhists?
if buddhists to rituals that is not due to Mahavamsa, as time passes socities evolve and as immigrants are absorbed new practices will emerge. A prime example is Perahara.
I have just one question to this lady. Have you ever read Mahavamsa? I expect her to answer this.
Also Mahavamsa carries the history of buddhism in SL. For a budhist (even for a sinhala catholic)this is an important book. As any text on history does this records the war fare, and invasions. It is a part of history. So when such things are written down and available it creates bad blood if the people are not mature enough to understand them in context.
Mahavamsa is an extremely worthy history book. It is a source of knowledge. Only an idiot would insult a book. Before she casts pearls to others, she needs to understand a value of a book.
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Amarasiri / December 28, 2013
sach and Avatars,
“Mahavamsa is an extremely worthy history book. It is a source of knowledge. Only an idiot would insult a book.”
Let’s see who the idiots are. They are well identified by the esteemed Ms. Shamani Serasingha.
Let’s see who the idiots are according the Mahawansa. Some is history from an earlier book,copied, some history, some folk tales, some pure Mahanama Monk imaginations. Some, V. A. Smith (Author of Asoka and Early history of India) also refers to this story as “a tissue of absurdities”. Specific examples are
1. Lion grandfather of Vijaya,
2. Buddha attained Enlightenment on the day Vijaya landed,
3. Visited Lanka 3 times.
4. Adams peak? Footprint? Not sure about that
5. Dhamma Deepaya for the Sinhalese to protect Buddhism
So the idiots are those who believe take as literal truth, the above and other absurdities of Mahawansa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahavamsa
It was written based on prior ancient compilations known as Sinhala Atthakatha, which were commentaries written in Sinhala[citation needed]. Mahathera Mahanama relied on this text, as he mentions in Mahavamse tika, that is the preface to Mahavamse.[4] Another, earlier document known as the Dipavamsa, which survives today, is much simpler and contains less information than the Mahavamsa, and was probably compiled using the Sinhala Mahavamse Atthakatha as well.
The historical accuracy of the Mahavamsa, given the time when it was written, is considered to be astonishing,[11] although the material prior to the death of Asoka is not considered to be trustworthy and is mostly legend.
This date of Vijaya’s arrival is thought to have been artificially fixed to coincide with the Ceylonese date for the death of Buddha, that is 543 BCE. The story of Vijaya’s arrival was also written much later after it had occurred, as the Mahavansa is thought to have been written in 6 CE to 1877 CE by Buddhist monks.[12][13]
The historical accuracy of Mahinda converting the Sri Lankan king to Buddhism is also debated. Professor Hermann Oldenberg, a German scholar of Indology who has published studies on the Buddha and translated many Pali texts, considers this story a “pure invention”. V. A. Smith (Author of Asoka and Early history of India) also refers to this story as “a tissue of absurdities”. V. A. Smith and Professor Hermann came to this conclusion due to Ashoka not mentioning the handing over of his son, Mahinda, to the temple to become a Buddhist missionary and Mahinda’s role in converting the Sri Lankan king to Buddhism, in his 13th year Rock Edicts. Particularly the Rock-Edict XIII.[14]
There is also an inconsistency with the year on which Ashoka sent Buddhist missionaries to Sri Lanka. According to the Mahavamsa the missionaries arrived in 255 BCE, but according to Ashoka’s Rock-Edict XIII it was 5 years earlier in 260 BCE.[14]
-Amarasiri
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Off the Cuff / December 29, 2013
Dear Mr Amarasiri,
The Mahavamsa is a historical record.
Though written by a Buddhist monk it is not a Canonical Buddhist text. There are reasons for the attempted transformation of the Mahavamsa from a historical document to a Canonical Buddhist document.
The British historian Dr. Jane Russell observes in her book “Communal Politics under the Donoughmore Constitution”, Tissara Publishers.
“The Ceylon Tamils had no written document on the lines of the Mahavamsa to authenticate their singular and separate historical authority in Sri Lanka, a fact which Ceylon Tamil communalists found very irksome” page 131
The Dutugamunu-Elara story was used by “Ceylon Tamil agitators as historical justification for the sense of grievance which they were so carefully nursing, and it was used to suggest that Sinhalese perfidy in the name of Sinhalese Buddhism would be the accepted practice in the future as well as in the past” page 154.
“An eminent historian who has come to the defense of the Mahavamsa is Karthigesu Indrapala. He has argued that the popular presentation of the Mahavamsa as a work of Sinhala Buddhist chauvinism is incorrect, and that the Mahavansa writer was singularly fair in his presentation” (Wiki)
I have read some of your contributions to this thread and I agree with some of your thoughts. But in this case I find myself disagreeing for the following reasons.
The Story about an Animal impregnating a Human woman is an obvious literary exaggeration as we know for certain that this cannot happen. This sort of thing is found in Historical text of that vintage when people believed in incredulities as evidence to the contrary was unavailable. The Ramayanaya speaks of God Vaayu impregnating a Monkey resulting in the Birth of Hanuman. The Bible speaks of God impregnating a Human resulting in the Birth of a part God part Human Jesus while his mother is claimed to be a virgin. That the Universe and all within it was a creation of God is another incredulity but rejecting a historical text on such trivialities when your own source states “The historical accuracy of the Mahavamsa, given the time when it was written, is considered to be astonishing,…” is selective Myopia.
I do not believe in the footprint theory of Sri Pada either but unless there is factual evidence that Lanka at that period was inaccessible from India over land, discounting the visits as improbable is unwise (I don’t believe he flew or that he appointed the Sinhalese as the guardian of the Damma. These are literary embellishments of the writer).
There is no doubt that the Mahavamsa contains inaccuracies (the writer was not doing a live chronological commentary). He depended on the writings of others who lived before him for information of the past. If that information was inaccurate so will his reporting be. It was not written in an information age and Stone inscriptions were not found in libraries. Verification of what others reported of them needed extensive travel to where the inscriptions were located. Commuting in that age was not as easy as it is today.
You stated “Let’s see who the idiots are. They are well identified by the esteemed Ms. Shamani Serasingha”
I don’t agree that Ms Serasinghe identified anyone (other than in the Nikaya Cast issue). She uses an Elusive and faceless Ghost, just like a Ventriloquist uses his/her Dummy.
My views are set out in my rebuttal at the link below and in my answers to the challenges made elsewhere in the thread.
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/#comment-824840
Please contest anything that you cannot agree to. Sharmini has not been able to.
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sach / January 2, 2014
the idiot are the ones who cant read a comment and understand it. The hypocrasy of many pandithayas here is disgusting. I have told several times Mahanamsa contains mythical parts. That is expected from a book written in 5 AD. For a person living in 5 AD, buddha coming and seting the feet might be logical. And your own answer proves my point.
From your answer,
[The historical accuracy of the Mahavamsa, given the time when it was written, is considered to be astonishing,[11] although the material prior to the death of Asoka is not considered to be trustworthy and is mostly legend.]
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Kirthi / December 25, 2013
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Kirthi / December 25, 2013
Why you remove that, it was in line as we were targeted.
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Native Vedda / December 25, 2013
Kirthi
No no no
I understand your confusion, Gota and Gautama are two completely different persons.
Quote from Gota:
“I will Hang him”
He is known as the was criminal.
Buddha-vaccana:
“Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned”
He is the enlightened one.
Can you see the difference?
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Kirthi / December 25, 2013
Don’t think I will get out just because of your banners, I’m ready to go further.
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Prasad / December 25, 2013
Yea go further and die for the country, for the begining read this article again very throughly and then go and hit your head on a brick wall.
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Wimal_Modawansa / December 30, 2013
To Sach, Kirthi, Jim Softy and all those insulting Sharmini on this thread.This is my response to them-
One day Buddha was walking through a village. A very angry and rude young man came up and began insulting him. “You have no right teaching others,” he shouted. “You are as stupid as everyone else. You are nothing but a fake.” Buddha was not upset by these insults. Instead he asked the young man “Tell me, if you buy a gift for someone, and that person does not take it, to whom does the gift belong?” The man was surprised to be asked such a strange question and answered, “It would belong to me, because I bought the gift.” The Buddha smiled and said, “That is correct. And it is exactly the same with your anger. If you become angry with me and I do not get insulted, then the anger falls back on you. You are then the only one who becomes unhappy, not me. All you have done is hurt yourself.” “If you want to stop hurting yourself, you must get rid of your anger and become loving instead. When you hate others, you yourself become unhappy. But when you love others, everyone is happy.” ― Since Shamini is not accepting it will belong to you -Sach, Kirthi, Jim Softy and all those insulting Sharmini.
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Bruz / December 26, 2013
So many comments and so little sense. What’s the point and why argue ?
Most of the religious stories are made up fictions based on some factual things with lots of elaboration. Be it Bible, Quran, Mahabharath, Mahawansa etc., All the great religions teach good humanity, behaviour, ethics, philosophy, harmless way of living, peace and love. But people manipulated and still manipulating the religions for their selfish purposes and poisoning or brain washing the minds of beleivers. None of these stories and adultered concepts should be taken for granted. We must try to understand the basic meaning of things professed and not go beyond or manipulate to suit one’s need. All these stories are unbelievable but the hidden facts are meaningful. No ordinary human can follow everything said in any of the religion. It’s nice to read but hard to follow. No point in arguing about any religion or it’s origin and correct practice. It’s all great imagination, nice to read but not practical to follow. No use fighting over these unbelievable fictions. Just behave like normal human, refrain from hate, love if you can, do your duty, lead your life in a simple humanistic way. No religion is superior to any other. Do not take everything written by every one as gospel. It’s all nothing more than religious politics.Shamini wrote a nice piece of unbiased, healthy, intellectual and courageous article, which should be read with open mind. It should be correctly understood as a non-Buddhist bashing stuff but a thought provoking and an interesting piece of work. We don’t come across many people of her caliber. Jagath Asoka is another great guy in this category. Thank you both for your wonderful contributions and expect more of these sorts in future.
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sach / December 26, 2013
This is not anything regarding whether buddhism is truth or not. I know there are many things that needed to be changed in our way of practicing religion. But Sharmini doesnt try to do that. She is just trying to score some points in a platform that will surely give her acclaim.
Everyone knows this is dominated by Eelamists always looking to insult Mahawamsa. We all know for what reason.
And she doesnt give a coherrent arguement. She just pathetically target and insult lay buddhists that too point at totally harless rituals. I know buddhists today give more priority for rituals than Dhamma. If Sharmini wants to change that, there is a platform to raise such issues. That is if she expect changes and improvements honestly. what she is trying to do here is score some points.
And her title about Mahavamsa has no connection to the content of the article. Even jagath fellow fits to that category.
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Prasad / December 27, 2013
Stupid sach
You are saying there are many things to be changed in practising Buddhism. Sharmini cannot change them, she can only point out or expose them. Even to do that you should be brave and bold. Once people know what they had been doing all this time was wrong, then they mmay change. Sharmini has taken the first step in the right direction. A few fools like you who cannot see beyond your nose are crying fowl. Please use your brain, do not keep it idle.
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Off the Cuff / December 27, 2013
Prasad,
Unfortunately Sharmini has not come forward to defend her essay. Many questions have been asked and no answers given.
Any ignoramus can make spurious claims. But Sharmini is no ignoramus. However unless she has the courage to defend what she writes she will be a coward and a Rabble Rouser who cannot be taken seriously.
She claims to be an Educated Buddhist with Wisdom (she was thumbing her nose at others who she claimed were educated but without wisdom). She claims that she was taught Buddhism by a very respected Monk who exceled in his knowledge of Buddha Dharma. Strangely this well Educated Buddhist Lady who claims to have an abundance of wisdom did not know that Baby Siddhartha was not BORN a Buddha but as the son of a King who became the Buddha 35 years later.
The life of the Buddha with the attendant Myths (such as those critiqued by Sharmini) is taught to every Buddhist child, yet Sharmini had no clue, that infant Siddartha was not the Buddha!
For more details please read the following post.
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/index.php/mahavamsa-an-insult-to-the-buddha/#comment-824840
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Prasad / December 29, 2013
What is there for her to come and defend??? Defend from whom???
Just because a very few utter stupid morons of your ilk (Cut & Paste experts) with a pea brain who cannot see beyond their nose are challenging her erudite article, do you think she will come to defend her from you fools.
She is doing the very best that any intelligent person will do, to completely ignore the undersirable imbeciles like you.
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Off the Cuff / December 30, 2013
Dear Prasad,
You say “What is there for her to come and defend??? Defend from whom??? ”
If you did not know that by now your intellectual capacity is in doubt.
Answer to the First question: Her essay of course and her reputation
Answer to the Second question: From the reading public
You say Just because a very few utter stupid morons of your ilk (Cut & Paste experts) with a pea brain who cannot see beyond their nose are challenging her erudite article, do you think she will come to defend her from you fools.”
Well you make a lot of noise but have not made a single factual argument. The expletives you use don’t count towards debate. But it shows exasperation and desperation of a person caught with his pants down. Empty vessels do make a lot of Noise but nothing else.
You say “She is doing the very best that any intelligent person will do, to completely ignore the undersirable imbeciles like you. ”
Of course she is intelligent.
Intelligent enough to know that her Achilles Heel of Nameless Faceless “Academically Educated and supposedly intelligent Sinhala Buddhists falling short on Wisdom” have been exposed
She is also an expert Ventriloquist who can deceive the simple minded in to believing that its her Dummy that talks.
She therefore will allow the dogs to do the barking and stay out of the limelight.
as a good Ventriloquist would.
She is too intelligent for you to decipher
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Rationalist / December 30, 2013
“I know there are many things that needed to be changed in our way of practicing religion. But Sharmini doesnt try to do that.”
Sach, Sharmini ‘does not try’ to change our way of practising Buddhism.
We can only change it ourselves, by trying to understand the Buddha’s True Dhamma.
“By ourselves is Evil Done. Buddhas only show the Way”!
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V.Vic / December 26, 2013
Buddhism, Srilankan style is committing War Crimes, rapes of Tamil women and murdering innocent civilians. Good luck.
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Suresh / December 26, 2013
V.Vic
Are the Buddhist monks practicing Ahimsa (non-violence), Karuna (compassion), Metta (affection), and Maithriya (loving-kindness) towards fellow humans (irrespective of race/religion) or are they in the name of Buddhism promoting ethno-religious (Sinhala-Buddhist) chauvinism and hatred?
The Sinhala-Buddhist Monks in Sri Lanka are the most corrupt, most racist, and the most dangerous. Buddhist monks are supposed to have given up all the worldly things (Materialism) but in Sri Lanka, it’s a different story. The Sinhala-Buddhist Monks are Corrupt to the Core.
These so called Sinhala-Buddhist monks in Sri Lanka do business, handle money, have Bank accounts and apply for Bank loans. It was found that a very large number of Sinhala-Buddhist monks had invested money in Sakvith Ranasighe’s illegal financial companies. They even sell the ata pirika (robes and other stuff) that the people donate them to earn money. Some of them are even employed. They engage in gambling, buy and sell shares, buy lottery tickets and so on. See the number of Pin-keta (tills) in the Buddhist temples. What they do with all the money they collect? Most of the culprits caught in printing fake currency notes were found to be Sinhala-Buddhists monks. They make money by selling the Car permits given to them. They print, record and sell books, magazines and Bana/pirith CDs, etc. and earn thousands of rupees in a short period.
Buddha Business has made the Sinhala Buddhist monks very rich. They own bungalows and real estates and have luxury cars and vans, employing drivers. Very soon they will also apply for driving license. They also have the latest most expensive mobile phones, lap tops, etc. They do not go from house to house with the begging bowl as instructed by the Buddha, instead the villages bring food to the temple and also the Sinhala Buddhist monks employ cooks in the temple. We have also seen Sinhala Buddhist monks selling posters, begging for money, going from door to door asking money. Buddhist-monk led politicians wheeling and dealing in imported Mercedes Benz and being caught with the pants down illegally selling tax-free motor vehicles.
They grow hair and make themselves attractive, adopt customs, habits and lifestyles like normal people, have secret love affairs, some of them live in boarding houses instead of temples, they listen to music and watch movies and have illegal sex with women or young boys. They keep mistresses in the temple (Buddhrakitha Thero and Ms. Vimala Wijewardene), and even take part in criminal/terrorist activities such as assassinating Prime minister (Somarama thero). Some of them drink alcohol, I have heard about monks who even keep Beer in their fridge. Some of them even form trade unions/associations; there was a time when the leader of the Nurses trade union in Sri Lanka was a Sinhala-Buddhist monk.
Some of them perform false miracles and pretend to heal sick people with pirith water. They tie pirith thread and bless people expecting the people to fall on their legs and worship them. Some of them preach their own Bana (sermon) instead of Buddha`s Bana.
The Sinhala Buddhist monks were War mongers, they supported and encouraged war. They take part in racist politics criticizing and condemning all other religions and races and creating communal hatred among Sinhala Buddhists and others. They take part in protest rallies, burning flags and effigies and also engage in fast unto death and now, self-immolation. Some Buddhist monks shredded their robes to take AK-47s and earn more respect. We saw how monks were involved in brawl in the parliament with blood soaked faces. The Sinhala Buddhist monks lobbed a grenade at the Shah Rukh Khan show in Colombo. At present the Sinhala Buddhist monks are engaged in violence against the Muslims and Christians. They stormed the Fashion Bug, verbally abused the Muslims (hambaya, goni billa), and threw rotten eggs at shoppers, attacked and destroyed several Mosques and Churches.
Another new trend is the love for eating non-veg food (Meat and fish) among Sinhala-Buddhists monks. A new school seems to see nothing wrong in Buddhists eating animal flesh (including fish). An article by Ven. Dr. Vilegoda Ariyadeva thero, a former University of Ruhuna academic is a giant step toward guilt-free `Buddhism-friendly` meat eating. Dr. Ariyadeva thero claims meat eating is customary in Theravada Buddhist societies. Now a days when the Sinhala-Buddhists monks visit houses for Arms-giving (Daane) they expect expensive sea food and sometimes meat too. There are also Sinhala-Buddhists monks in Sri Lanka consuming food/drink in the afternoons/night even though they are not supposed to do so.
Even though Buddhism does not have any caste system, caste is used among Sinhala Buddhist monks more than lay people. Different nikayas are formed according to the caste.
Most of the Sinhala Buddhist Monks do not even follow the 5 basic moral principles (Pancha sila) what Buddha has preached. These monks are a damn disgrace to Buddhism?
The Buddhism preached by the Sinhala Buddhist monks is no longer able to provide any vision or guidance or constructive power but are only occupied in maintaining their own petty positions in an already atrophied hierarchy resting on a utterly disillusioned and rapidly crumbling society from which the spirit has long since departed. They have subordinated the interests of the society to national goals and the narrow ambitions of nationalist and racist leaders.
Not only the Indians but even the Sri Lankan Tamils gave up Buddhism and accepted Hinduism. Even if someone advice them to return to Buddhism, for the Tamils to go back to Buddhism, has 2500 years of Buddhism in Sri Lanka (the so called Dhammadveepa) influenced any major changes in the Sinhala society (the so called guardians of Buddhism chosen by none other than the Buddha) in terms of attitude, character, behavior, morality and so on or has it failed very miserably? The answer lies in Sharmini Serasinghe’s article.
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sach / December 26, 2013
Let me answer your accusations in point form.
1. Buddhist monks in SL are corrupt, business minded and not much into the Vinaya in Buddhism.
– As in any religious organization monks in SL too are prone to corruption. Buddhists in SL accept there are corrupt monks and many reject such monks. Actually such monks lose people’s support as soon as their deeds are revealed. And I don’t reject monks in SL (some of them) do not live according to the vinaya. That is a problem that existed in Buddha’s time too not specific to lankan Buddhist monks. In such occasions Buddha asked them to leave the sanga.
If Buddhist monks are corrupt and do things against the law of this country, the state can act against them. There is no special protection for them. However if the monks do not act according to Buddhist vinaya, no one would be banishing them or state cant intervene. There is no religious police in Buddhism that acts against monks who not living according to Buddhist vianaya. Buddhists think if these monks goes against vinaya that they will face their bad karma in the future or just shun them. We don’t go policing around them.
Corrupt, money minded and lustful monks are not something special to Buddhist monks in SL. Even in India I have heard many stories of Hindu priests doing exactly the same. The same applies to church and mosque. This is what happens when unsuitable people enter monkhood.
2. Buddhist monks in SL are racist.
————————————-Some may be, some may not be. I don’t reject that racist Buddhist monks are in SL, there are. At the same time there are many who are not. For example Dimbulagala monk was murdered by LTTE in early 90s, but in 2004 Tsunami, the tamil villagers in that area were given refuge in the very temple that Dimbulagala monk lived. There can be racist monks as there can be racist people in any society. For example Rayappu Joseph is a known supporter of LTTE, terrorists. He is accused of discriminating against Sinhala catholics as well. Does that mean the whole Tamil catholic monks in SL are racist? NO!
3. they do not go with the begging bowl as the Buddha does.
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So what? Going with a begging bowl is not a must for a Buddhist monk. This just displays your ignorance on Buddhism and its practices.
4. Monks are not vegetarian.
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Again, so what? Vegetarianism is not in Buddhism. Even Buddha rejected it. I mentioned this elsewhere. If any monk wants to be a vegetarian he can but it is not a must. That is the case for Theravada Buddhism whether it is in SL or Thailand.
5. Sinhala Buddhist monks are war mongers and supported and encouraged war.
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So the war continued in SL because, Buddhist monks in SL supported it. If we go with your logic majority of the commentators here are war mongers. SL didn’t sustain a war, SL was defending her territory. The ones who sustained and supported a war, we all know who they are.
Also even if SL monks took the side of war, why cant they do that? They are entitled to have an opinion on any issue and they too have political rights like everyone in SL have.
-6. Monks practice caste system
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I have mentioned before how it came into being. This was started in Kandyan perion. Many kings came with a Hindu background and they were believers of a caste system. As these kings had to touch the feet and worship all monks whatever the caste they come from, they adopted a new strategy. These kings started a new monk order that ordained people only from high caste and treated these monks.
7. Sri Lankan Tamils gave up Buddhism and adopted Hinduism. ——
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In India Buddhists were persecuted by Hindu kings and many attempts were made to convert them. Actually the Buddha in Bagavat Geetha as an Avatar of Vishnu is an attempt to absorb the remaining Buddhists in India. That is how Buddhism was lost in india. Same way the invading armies from TN made Sri Lankan Buddhists, Hindus by force and murder. Much like the religion of peace!
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Native Vedda / December 27, 2013
sach
Sri Lankan Tamils gave up Buddhism and adopted Hinduism
Why?
Under your above topic you haven’t explained as to why Tamils converted to Hinduism. You are dragging your feet up to mount Everest to talk about Buddhists were being persecuted by Hindu kings.
What has it got to do with Sri Lanka?
Please tell me
Were there any Tamil Buddhists in Tamilnadu and in this island?
Did Indian Hindu Kings persecute and convert Tamils of India?
Did Indian Hindu Kings persecute and convert Tamils in this island?
Did Indian Tamil Kings persecute and convert Tamils of India?
Did Indian Hindu Tamil Kings persecute and convert Tamils of this island?
When did Tamil Buddhists disappear from Tamilnadu?
When did Tamil Buddhists disappear from this island?
Please sight your evidence.
“That is how Buddhism was lost in india. Same way the invading armies from TN made Sri Lankan Buddhists, Hindus by force and murder.”
Please sight your evidence.
So those Hindus who were killed by Sri Lankan armed forces were descendants of converted Sinhala/Buddhists.
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sach / December 27, 2013
aney please read before commenting for the sake of commenting.
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Native Vedda / December 27, 2013
sach
I did read your comment which compelled me to ask you further questions to clarify what you said earlier.
Could you now clarify what you said earlier so that I hope I would be educated.
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sach / January 5, 2014
Education for u is useless, just pass. Between read my initial comment again. It has the answer to your first Qn.
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James / December 29, 2013
Suresh,
You can add this as an addition to your comment,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2343198/Is-mean-higher-plane-Buddhist-monks-caught-film-travelling-private-jet-wearing-stylish-aviator-shades-listening-iPods.html
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Amarasiri / December 28, 2013
V. Vic,
“Buddhism, Srilankan style is committing War Crimes, rapes of Tamil women and murdering innocent civilians. Good luck.”
Hinduism, Srilankan style is committing War Crimes, rapes of women, ethnic cleansing and murdering innocent civilians, courtesy, LTTE Good luck.
So from Hinduism ==> Buddhism ==> Monk Mahanama Buddhism ==> Maraism
Mara was attacking Buddha but failed, and finally succeeded in turning Lanka Buddhism into Lanka Maraism.
Rather unfortunate Lanka became Mahanama Sinhala Buddhist and violent whereat Bali, Indonesia remained Hindu and peaceful
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Off the Cuff / December 30, 2013
V. Vic please take note.
When I moved to Hatton and later to Colombo, I found a very different world. It was a transforming experience for me and my wife to find that our workmates, mostly Sinhalese would actually sit with us and share a cup of tea. We found that we could go to night school and study without being threatened, beaten up, or go and borrow books, and do things that would bring swift retribution ‘back in the North’; our dwellings would have been torched and our women raped with impunity” Sebastian Rasalingam, a low cast Tamil now residing in Canada
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Sasi / December 31, 2013
The SL government and the Sinhala-Buddhist NGOs are funding him very handsomly to write RUBBISH. Even though he lives in Canada, his daily bread and shelter is provided by the Sinhala-Buddhists.
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Off the Cuff / December 31, 2013
Dear Sasi,
Is it your position that Mr Sebastian Rasalingam is not writing about the persecution he and his Indian Tamil wife underwent at the Hands of the Tamil Elite, the Brahmins and the Vellalas?
There are MANY sources that corroborate what he describes which include Tamils and historical texts written by Foreigners. I can quote them if you decide to contest what I say.
Can you quote any authoritative evidence to substantiate your claim the Mr Sebastian Rasalingam is a Liar?
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Sasi / December 31, 2013
Sebastian Rasalingam is a blatant liar. No such things happened to him. He is being paid by the Sinhala-Buddhist racists to write such articles. All what he says is his pure imagination. Each and every Tamil knows that Sebastian Rasalingam is lying. You are saying there are MANY sources that corroborate what he describes which include Tamils and historical texts written by Foreigners. Could you please provide reliable and authoritative evidence to prove what Sebastian Rasalingam saying is true? Sebastian Rasalingam is simply inventing stories from thin air just like the Mahavamsa author who said Buddha came flying to Sri Lanka three times. Only some Sinhala-Buddhist Modayas like you will believe Sebastian Rasalingam.
Man, I thought you are only a Modaya but you seem to be insane. Using his wild imagination, Sebastian Rasalingam has invented stories from thin air and you are asking me to quote any authoritative evidence to substantiate my claim that Mr Sebastian Rasalingam is a Liar? Yes, I have personally used a lie detector on him and it shows he is 90% lying. To answer an idiotic question put forward by a moron, you have to stoop down to his level and answer him. Do not laugh at me folks, LOL.
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Off the Cuff / January 1, 2014
Dear Sasi,
Thank you for being so brave. But a word of warning. The Adage “Sinhalya Modaya” is a misnomer as Prabha and his corp found out to their detriment. You are making a grave error by underestimating the Sinhalese.
Let’s see who is telling the Truth and who the Liar is, shall we?
Ms Pearl Thevanayagam comes from a High Cast Tamil Family. She contributes to TC. The last time I saw her on TC was on November 28, 2013 at 6:56 pm. Lets see whether she confirms high cast Sasi or the Low Cast Mr Sebastian Rasalingam.
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Title – Pernicious caste curse of Tamils living in the dark ages
(June 30, London, Sri Lanka Guardian) Mr Sebastian Rasalingam’ article, Sinhalisation of the North and Tamilisation of the South in yesterday’s Sri Lanka Guardian, is of utmost necessity and urgent issue Tamils need to address if we are to reach closure on our prejudices and shine the torch inwards for permanent integration into Sri Lankan polity and obtain our legitimate rights from the majority Sinhala government.
Tamil leaders have systematically fuelled caste based hierarchy and even abroad they cannot desist from trumpeting their castes while paying obeisance to the LTTE leader for championing their rights. When I wrote on Jaffna’s Caste Curse in mid ‘90s for The Sunday Leader most of my friends ridiculed me and said I was living in cloud cuckoo land.
I am still not sure what my caste is. On the one hand my late father used to say we have a family tree and on the other my mother used to say we have enough mix in our blood that it would be indeed very difficult to define our caste-base.
As a 12 year old I became conscious of how Tamils used the caste system to enslave least 75 percent of the Tamil population by obtaining their services virtually free based on their belonging to the servile class. I wondered about my own family’s hypocrisy when on the one hand they practised Catholicism to the letter treating our servants kindly and generously and on the other never allowing us to mix with those who are perceived to belong to lower castes. They even interrogated my classmates before they could be allowed into the hall.
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Elsewhere in the same article she writes
I was touched and enlightened by this scholar Mr Rasalingam’s honest, erudite and simple explanation on the fate that befell Tamils and why Tamils need to change their attitudes. They are still living in the dark ages carrying with them the burden of ignorance, arrogance and narrow-mindedness.
No amount of militant or political solution can gain Tamils their rights unless this caste menace is eradicated even by enforcement of laws.
Please accept my congratulations on this excellent article Mr Rasalingam.
Unquote (emphasis mine)
I hope you will not start character assassinating Ms Pearl Thevanayagam because your Lies have been exposed.
Your “Personal Lie Detector” seems to be dysfunctional. Please get it attended to. Next time use authoritative sources instead of your malfunctioning “Personal Lie Detector”.
Do you want another Tamil person’s description of the Hindu Tamil Cast system of the North? If you are not satisfied with Ms Pearl Thevanayagam, I can give you another.
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Sasi / January 2, 2014
Ms Pearl Thevanayagam does not know Sebastian Rasalingam. She does not know that the Sinhala-Buddhists are[Edited out]. Ms Pearl Thevanayagam is only having sympathy for him. Obviously, anybody reading his articles will feel sad for him without knowing his motives, [Edited out]
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Off the Cuff / January 3, 2014
Dear Sasi,
Apparently you have been caught Lying and is struggling like a Fish out of water.
You attempted to discredit Mr Rasanayagam and you have been taken completely by surprise by the Credentials of my source that not only confirms Mr SR but also provides further insight into the Cast Curse of Jaffna Tamils on her own (please read the Title of her article).
She says As a 12 year old I became conscious of how Tamils used the caste system to enslave least 75 percent of the Tamil population by obtaining their services virtually free based on their belonging to the servile class.
Those percentages are her own.
She on her own says Tamil leaders have systematically fuelled caste based hierarchy and even abroad they cannot desist from trumpeting their castes.
She has even written an article on Jaffna’s Caste Curse in mid ‘90s for The Sunday Leader.
She even says that her own family being Catholic practised Cast.
She doesn’t need to know Mr SR personally to realise that he is telling the truth. He is relating what she already knew from age 12. Mr SR essay struck a chord with her and prompted her to pay a glowing tribute to him. She said “I was touched and enlightened by this scholar Mr Rasalingam’s honest, erudite and simple explanation”
Just like her, I don’t need to know you personally to know that you are lying and possibly a separatist propagandist to boot.
Have you repaired that dysfunctional Lie detector yet?
Perhaps you can use it on this person too.
The FIRST President of the Global Tamil Forum (GTF) is Dr Nagalingam Ethirweerasingham. He was ousted by the machinations of Rev Fr Dr S.J. Emmanuel. Dr NE has given a description of the Hindu Tamil Cast system of Jaffna that you deny.
Here are some excerpts
“Can anyone become a Hindu priest?” “No. Only children of priests can become a
priest.”
“Annai, Why should I not drink water from the well near St Anthony’s church? I asked with concern. “Is it bad water?” “No. You won’t get sick from that water. Low caste people are not allowed to draw water from our wells. So they dug their own well. High caste people do not eat or drink with them.”
“That well is reserved for the low caste people. Others are to drink from the well at the roadside.”
“Who gave you water from that well?” asked Ammah. “Simeon.” “Ah, we should teach him a lesson,” said someone from behind.
“Aunt Mary is my mother’s cousin. Her father changed his religion to go to the English school. In the early days, I was told that one had to be a Christian to attend English
schools. My grandfather and grandmother did not want to change their religion, and they never attended the English school”
“This is a low caste church. They allow low caste people to go inside. At St. John’s Church only high caste Christians can go inside”
“There were some ladies who did not wear a blouse. They wore the sari tied above the breast instead of around the waist and over the shoulders like the others”
“None of the men and women near the well wore shirts or blouses”
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Sasi / January 3, 2014
“Apparently you have been caught Lying and is struggling like a Fish out of water.”
LOL…
Naivety at its best!
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Off the Cuff / January 4, 2014
Dear Sasi,
You have totally lost your initial Braggadocio and Arrogance and is whimpering.
Mr Sabastian Rasalingam, Ms. Pearl Thevanayagam and The former Global Tamil Forum President Mr Nagalingam Ethirweerasingham has striped you naked. If you haven’t noticed it yet, ALL of them are High Cast and Low Cast Tamils.
The Slavery and total subjugation, using force and thuggery and segregating 75% of the Northern Tamil population into Open Prisons are Facts that you cannot deny.
Please use your Dysfunctional Personal Lie detector on yourself (after repairs of course) before you attempt venturing into defending your Dirty, subhuman Cast system that Tamil High Cast leaders wanted written into the Sri Lankan Constitution.
Kind Regards
OTC
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Psychologist / December 26, 2013
Sharmini,
Please watch out for this person Kirthi commenting on this thread.
He shows acute symptoms of severe psychotic behavior.
Such people are extremely dangerous, because they have lost contact with reality, sometimes leading to violence against self or others.
His family should take serious not of his condition and seek immediate psychiatric help to avert a disaster.
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Psychologist / December 26, 2013
He shows acute symptoms of severe psychotic behavior (schizophrenia).
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Rationalist / December 30, 2013
Psychologist, There is not only Kirthi but, others like Sach, and Hela et al who seem to be Avatars of the same ‘Split Personality’
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sach / January 5, 2014
Please be rational. i understand at your age it is a bit difficult but give it a try ‘Rational man’
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Kirthi / December 26, 2013
Thank you thank you, how generous and concerned, like insurence agents. Please look after the shining star and [Edited out]
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Wimal_Modawansa / December 30, 2013
To Sach, Kirthi, Jim Softy and all those insulting Sharmini on this thread.This is my response to them-
One day Buddha was walking through a village. A very angry and rude young man came up and began insulting him. “You have no right teaching others,” he shouted. “You are as stupid as everyone else. You are nothing but a fake.” Buddha was not upset by these insults. Instead he asked the young man “Tell me, if you buy a gift for someone, and that person does not take it, to whom does the gift belong?” The man was surprised to be asked such a strange question and answered, “It would belong to me, because I bought the gift.” The Buddha smiled and said, “That is correct. And it is exactly the same with your anger. If you become angry with me and I do not get insulted, then the anger falls back on you. You are then the only one who becomes unhappy, not me. All you have done is hurt yourself.” “If you want to stop hurting yourself, you must get rid of your anger and become loving instead. When you hate others, you yourself become unhappy. But when you love others, everyone is happy.” ― Since Shamini is not accepting it will belong to you -Sach, Kirthi, Jim Softy and all those insulting Sharmini.
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