18 October, 2017

War Crimes Probe: TNA Miffed With Government’s Time Buying Tactics

The Tamil National Alliance (TNA) is miffed with the government’s latest time buying tactic in its attempt to further postpone the war crimes probe, sources said.

Sampanthan

During several forums, the TNA MPs, including its leader R. Sampanthan had expressed both disappointment and annoyance following the government’s recent declaration that it will seek more time from the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) to probe war crimes.

The TNA which has from time to time both directly and indirectly supported the Yahapalanaya government, has also been ‘upset’ by a recent statement made by former President Chandrika Bandaranaike Kumaratunga that a war crimes probe was not necessary. Kumaratunga, is the head of the Office for the National Unity and Reconciliation (ONUR).

Meanwhile, Sampanthan who is also the leader of the opposition in parliament, has accused the government of trying to evade its responsibilities by buying time from the UNHRC. He had also reportedly said that if the Sri Lankan government seeks for more time at the UNHRC sessions in Geneva this month, then the UN must monitor and scrutinize the government’s activities ‘more closely’ to ensure they are genuinely working towards fulfilling its pledge, or was looking at ways of stalling the probe.

Last week, foreign minister Mangala Samaraweera said that he will seek for more time from the UNHRC session this month, to probe war crime charges. He had assured that this government will not go back on its pledge, but instead needed more time to set up the judicial mechanisms, to probe war crimes committed during the final stages of the war between the military and the LTTE. The 34th UNHRC sessions will commence on February 27 in Geneva.

Just before Samaraweera’s statement, ex-President Kumaratunga who is also a very close associate of incumbent President Maithripala Sirisena ruled out the involvement of courts to probe war crimes. Kumaratunga, said that as steps have been taken to create a Constitution and to establish the Office of the Missing Persons, there won’t be a necessity to have courts to probe war crimes, thereby going back on an original pledge by the government that it will probe war crimes, in an effort to bring in holistic reconciliation.

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    Some people try to put the whole blame on killing Sinhalese, Muslims, Tamils and even some foreigners on Pirahabaran and let others who supported and backed him and still living escape. OK, if there should be War Crimes investigation bring all others, starting from Adele Balasingham, Rudrakumaran, Emmanual, Surendiran et al and our own TNA comrades including Sampanthan to face it.
    All these people who were behind Pirahabaran encouraging him to engage in massacres and destroy national assets are now trying to be saints and punish the armed forces for destroying the LTTE.

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      The question is who killed Sinhalese, Tamils and Muslims in Srilanka. Pirabharan or LTTE or those who supported LTTE are not at all responsible for the killing of Sinhalese, Tamils and Sinhalese. THe real terrorists are those Buddhist Sinhala Fundamentalists and those who gave their support to these fundamentalist terrorists. Who is a terrorist? Is it the Buddhist fundamentalist who drag and burnt those innocent Tamils and who served for the country and the poor upcountry Tamil labourer who worked day and night to feed the Sinhalese ot those LTTE fighters who fought to stop those Sinhala military who went on rampage in the streets of North East and raped Tamil women?

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      This is the typical expression of a person whose intelligence and rational thinking is clouded by racism. War crimes are deliberate targeting of safe zones like hospitals and refugee centers, killing of non combatants, use of unauthorized weapons like cluster bombs and chemical weapons, summary execution of surrendering persons etc. There is evidence that security forces had committed these offences.

      Those who would be charged are those actually committed them or those holding command responsibility in committing them. This does not mean that entire armed forces are guilty of them and will be tried. Also not the Sinhala politicians or civilians who supported the armed forces in the war. This distinction seems to have not entered into the minds of those who are gunning for LTTE supporters or Tamil Politicians.

      Unfortunately for these sycophants, members of LTTE who committed them or have command responsibility have either been killed in combat or have been killed after surrendering. In law once a person dies, the case against him is dropped. It is a travesty of justice when these Sinhala criminals are allowed to roam free, when Tamils who had not committed any crime are languishing in jails for several years.

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        Where were those Tamil leaders, including Tamil diaspora leaders, the Western leaders, especially the United Nations when the Tamil armed groups were mercilessly gunned down each other group members; and assassinating political leaders and intellectuals far more than any other terrorist groups in the world? Do you see evolution in Tamils who conducted the Asia’s longest brutal civil war for more than three decades? Do you see evolution in Tamils who assassinated far more leaders and intellectuals than any other terrorist organization in the world? The answer is no.

        Sri Lankan Tamils’ problem was sorted long time ago, but the Tamil leaders weren’t smart enough to accept it. Tamil leaders always end up in wrong side, and look for ways to create disasters not solutions. In the 1940s the British offered a solution for Tamils to go separate, but the Tamil leaders said ‘We’ll live together with Sinhalese’. Second opportunity came when G G Ponnambalam was the leader; Sinhalese generously agreed for 40:60 solution even though Tamils’ population wasn’t 40% at that time. But Tamil leaders rejected it and wanted 50:50; later on decided to take arms from New Delhi to kill their fellow countrymen. Then the third opportunity came through Indo-Lanka agreement. Again the Tamil leaders rejected the good offer, but decided to listen to the West, and turned their guns towards their fellow Tamils, Muslims, Sinhalese and Indians. If Tamil leaders have little brain, little love for their people they would have found a solution long time ago.

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          Antany Peter:

          Hello [Edited out], instead of raising your against the Tamils, you might as well prove that you really have one by questioning your regime for the murder, and mostly missing, of more than 70,000 sinhalese at the hands of a rogue sinhala regime. Prove to me you have balls for that instead of lecturing us. I wonder whether scums like you have lost your balls. A regime has painted shame on your own race in a colossal way and your dick has not even stood up for that. Go and take a look at yourself n the mirror before lecturing us.

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            If I have to question the Sri Lankan government…

            I have to question the Americans for killing millions in Iraq, Afghan and Vietnam.
            I have to question the British for killing millions in India by starvation, killing millions on genocide when invaded North America and Australasia, killing millions in Africa during the slave trade.
            I also have to question Spain for killing millions in South America.
            I also need to question the diaspora leaders for financing the war for three decades.
            I need to question Adol Balasingam for encouraging suicide bombing.

            I don’t have time or resources to question everybody. Therefore, I won’t say a word to the Sri Lankan government.

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              Yes of course Antany Peter. That is the very reason the International community decided an independent inquiry is the answer for a good resolution. It is very unfortunate for Sri Lanka not to heed to the rest of the world and go ahead with burying the future of all Sri Lankans.

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          Antany Peter,

          “In the 1940s the British offered a solution for Tamils to go separate”

          Did they?

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            Gave a solution, that would have divided the country later on ;–))) The British wouldn’t give a real solution, they will give something as solution, but it will lead to disaster as India and Pakistan. That is the power of the British who divide and conquer others.

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              Antany Peter,

              You are twisting.

              Provide evidence for this
              “In the 1940s the British offered a solution for Tamils to go separate”

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                The Sri Lankan Tamil leaders did not demand for federalism or even a separate state under the British rule. If they have demanded, surely their masters would have granted to them. However, the British suggested few solutions in the 1920s. The Sri Lankan Tamil leaders’ request was sorted long time ago, but the Tamil leaders weren’t smart enough to accept it. The federal solution was suggested by SWRD Bandaranaike in 1926, but it was opposed by the Tamil leaders. In 1927, Kandyan Sinhala leaders recommended a federal arrangement of two units for Sinhalese and one unit comprising the North–East for Tamils.

                Now is too late. Tamils are under the grip of foreign powers. Therefore, I wouldn’t support for devolution of power. Tamils should have found a solution long time ago to establish themselves, but they have failed utterly.

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                  Antany Peter
                  Who asked your support for anything?
                  What i asked you to provide evidence for what you said.
                  You failed to provide any evidence.

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          Antany Peter

          Good to hear from you.

          “Sri Lankan Tamils’ problem was sorted long time ago,”

          Is it really Sri Lankan Tamils’ problem?

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            Whatever they may call it ‘Tamil problems, discrimination, minority issue etc’. All sorted long time ago. Let the Tamil leaders talk nonsense for killing time ;—))))

        • 0
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          Antony you are sadly right!
          Not only in Sri Lanka but in India also!
          Tamils should have demanded their own nation
          Why should we live like second and third class citizens under the rule of communities who hate us?
          Our leaders are idiots in this regard

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            johnny Boy

            What are you blabbering?

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        There are NO evidence, sorry to disappoint you. But there is more than enough evidence to show LTTE kept a human shield which is a war crime

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          sach:

          Are you a dumb [Edited out] or what? Of course that is everywhere you touch and the LTTE has been accused of that count/crime. It is like telling us that every morning you are giving a report card that your [Edited out]

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            what are the evidence? So what are they?

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              sah, no one intelligent human should answer a question like this from a dumb person. So go and f off

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          sach you are one dumb f%$&. Man, I cannot believe how two humans can copulate and produce a wilder beast called sach. No evidence of war crimes committed by SLF but you found evidence on LTTE crimes. Wow, it just amazes me how on earth you survive?

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            yes idiot it is pretty much documented that ltte held a human shield and shot at fleeing civilians..it is a war crime

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              Sach jackass, these LTTE members were given jobs as Ministers by Parayapaksa, your hero. LTTE is a terrorist outfit dumb arse, GOSL/SLF are an established government body. If you can find the LTTE buggers who committed these crimes, then catch them and hand them over for war crimes………….we can start with Karuna/Pillayan and Inniyabarathy ex-ltte high ranking members who murdered 600 surrendered policemen but given jobs in the Ministry by your parayapaksa. So are you blind to this heinous crime? This is why I call you a dumb fu*&up.

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                That is what I am saying idiot the terrorist outfit held a human shield and committed war crimes. Therefore army has not violated any rules when counter attacking

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              Sachi boy, who documented it? Sumanarama thero of the malwatte chapter of goons. Bloody joker, go and screw off.

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                No your wife’s boyfriend

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                  Sachi boy, at least my wife’s boy friend knows how to write but your wife’s husband can speak, write or understand anything, he is dumb…………hahahahaha

      • 3
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        There are many Tamils living in hiding and overseas who have blood on their hands and there are many Tamils who have given support to murderous Tamil Terrorists. They are all guilty of murder directly and indirectly. They need to be dealt with by the Sri Lankan authorities. The argument, that the terrorists are dead and only the military is guilty is not going to get you anywhere. Remember, it was the Tamils who always started the killing; in 1958, 1977 and 1983. But there was a price to be paid for killings. They also started the “war” and lost. The humiliation the Tamils suffer due to the defeat is of their own making. Now, they want the world to punish Sri Lanka. That will not happen. No probes of any kind, ever. The Sri Lankan soldiers did their job. If you guys are ashamed of the defeat the best way to overcome that is to say “Tamils came second” and not lost the “war” they started. Then, all will be good.

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          Ex-LTTE high ranking members were part of your hero’s regime as government ministers and chief ministers. Why don’t you deal with them, their master and most importantly they are still alive and live in SL.

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            Ta,
            You forget KP who handed over 21 LTTE ships and funds in LTTE Bank Accounts to Gotabaya Rajapakse.

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        War crimes are deliberate targeting of safe zones like hospitals and refugee centers, killing of non combatants, use of unauthorized weapons like cluster bombs and chemical weapons, summary execution of surrendering persons //

        Where are evidence for DELIBERAE bombing of safe zones and killing non combatants? As LTTE crept inside and attacked the army from inside the SL Army has every right to attack safe zones.

        Cluster bombs are NOT unauthorised. Infact USA suggested SL to use cluster bombs but SL did not.

        Chemical weapons? where are evidence? But there are concrete evidence for LTTE using chemical weapons.

        what are the evidences for summary executions. Even if that happened if it was not a government policy and if no command responsibility can be found it is NOT a war crime, simply a crime that is handled in a military court.

        ///Those who would be charged are those actually committed them or those holding command responsibility in committing them. ///

        The point is idiot there is no sufficient evidence to establish a command responsibility

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      LTTE financiers, LTTE Brigadiers are enjoying mostly in europe and in the west.

      Only those who saved their country from the LTTE menace, those who saved 350,0000 civilian hostages are war criminals.

      Politicians can do only if people in the country allow it.

      Other wise, just talk.

      By the Jordan Prince says he wants money to proceed anymore work in Sri lanka.

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        Where are the army brigadiers are enjoying ? They have diplomatic post around the world, Mr Selective Memory

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      B S Perera:

      Your donkey’s ears should be pulled and straightened and I doubt even that may straighten you. More than 70,000 Sinhalese were murdered, most of them without a trace by a sinhala regime. How come you jokers don’t have balls to ever raise that questio? Scums like you haven’t even figured out that not even a thousand Prabhakarans’ adventures could have achieved that staggering number of your skin. Instead of locking up your dick deep beneath to slumber, be man enough to stand up against your regime to question that colossal loss. Neither the Tamils nor Prabhakaran featured in that horrendous crime. What a stupid donkey you are.

      • 0
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        jansee,

        JVP killed Buddhist monks, Human Rights lawyers and University dons, & army families too.
        Dr Mrs Gladys Jayawardene was killed in daylight, at Union Place.

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      B S Perera

      “OK, if there should be War Crimes investigation bring all others, starting from Adele Balasingham, Rudrakumaran, Emmanual, Surendiran et al and our own TNA comrades including Sampanthan to face it.”

      I agree with you, however the war crime investigation should start with Hindia which trained, funded, armed, …… LTTE and other groups.

      Remember investigation should be carried out on those who supplied arms, funds, medicine, diplomatic cover, ….. to LTTE during Premadasa’s presidency.

      MR clan also funded LTTE just before 2005 Elections.

      Political assassinations didn’t start with LTTE. In fact the first political assassination was carried out on 26 September 1959. Would you believe the assassin was a Sinhala/Buddhist monk and the victim was the public racist prime minister.

      All war crime investigation should cover the period from 5th April 1971 to January 2015.

      I envy your selective amnesia.

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        NV
        Why not consider the causes that sparked the political assasination of 1959 and also go into all those that occured up till 2009 in the island?
        The answer why Hindia interfered in Sl by arming terrorists would then become clear in that process.

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          Uthungan

          You are right, however I prefer to start the analysis from 1915 or there about which may take few hundred Phd thesis.

          In B S Perera’s case he is blessed with selective amnesia which I envy.

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    TNA isn’t the only one that is miffed. No war-crimes probe, no constitutional reforms?!

    WTF?

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      If only the TNA is interested in a war crimes probe and no one else in Sri Lanka is we have a serious problem!!

      We need to punish the criminals and celebrate our war Heroes!! (LTTE included)

      If we have a majority of our nation in favour of protecting criminal we have a huge national problem!!

      We can now see why and where the culture of protecting criminals like the Rajapaksa comes from and why they are being protected too…

      Are we human beings or a bunch of Yakkas and Nagas!?

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      I think everyone is ‘miffed’, just like the TNA that once said the LTTE are the sole representives of the Tamil people and we support them to achieve their end aims. The very ‘Miffed’ Sampanthan who uttered these words, today is ‘miffed’ why war crimes which also included his LTTE is still ‘miffed’ by the governments Time Buying Tactics.

      One hopes this very ”miffed’ sage will also be hauled up in this investigation for supporting the destruction of human lives.

      ohh wait he will plead that he is and was duped & miffed. by the peaceful non violent Gandhian LTTE movement.

      All sides and parties have to answer to the conflict, that incldues the miffed sage

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        malik:[Edited out]

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          jansee

          “malik:[Edited out]”

          Excellent

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    Let us hope that the International Community is not that stupid to buy the Foreign Minister’s baloney.

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      NotStupid

      “Let us hope that the International Community is not that stupid to buy the Foreign Minister’s baloney.”

      Does the International Community really want to investigate war crimes and crimes against humanity in Sri Lanka given that Hindia and USA were heavily involved in the war while 30 countries supported the two?

      Be serious.

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        Aney please everyone tell this idiot that 300 countries supported Sl to defeat his thalaiva….he consoles himself like that

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          Idiot sach, there are less than 210 countries in the world. Where did you get the figure 300? dumb twat!!!!

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            that is the point idiot

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              Sach, you have never made any points. The only point we all should put is a full stop to end your rubbish on CT.

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    Tamil National Alliance (TNA), Mr. Sampanthan

    “The Tamil National Alliance (TNA) is miffed with the government’s latest time buying tactic in its attempt to further postpone the war crimes probe, sources said.”

    Why are you surprised?

    To begin with there was no will on the part pf the Para-Sinhala, to go through a war crime probe, when they are very likely to be found guilty, and all the top Para-Sinhala leaders know that. As far as the Para-Tamil leaders who were controlling the Para-Tamil forces who are guilty of the war crimes have been punished without trial by the Para-Sinhala forces. Furthermore, the Para-Sinhala forces also punished without trial, many of the Para-Tamil forces.

    So, on a war crimes trial, only the Para-Sinhala forces will be found guilty, and therefore, no incentive for the Para-Sihala forces for a war crimes trial.

    So, come to some kind of compromise between the Paras, the Para-Sinhala and Para-Tamils, and the UN, and move on.

    Remember, this is the Land of Native Veddah Aethho, occupied by the Paras.

    What about the war crimes committed against the Native Veddah Aethho by the Paras? Any investigations on this?

    Mitochondrial DNA history of Sri Lankan ethnic people: their relations within the island and with the Indian subcontinental populations

    Journal of Human Genetics 59, 28-36 (January 2014) | doi:10.1038/jhg.2013.112

    Through a comparison with the mtDNA HVS-1 and part of HVS-2 of Indian database, both Tamils and Sinhalese clusters were affiliated with Indian subcontinent populations than Vedda people who are believed to be the native population of the island of Sri Lanka.

    http://www.nature.com/jhg/journal/v59/n1/full/jhg2013112a.html

    The Vedda Tribe

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f89NuukY32U&t=224s

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    Majority’s Religion and majority’s language are instruments for the parties of the majority to come to power.

    When the International institutions and the international community are pro GOSL what can the minority do ?

    SL need another world war to put things right Wwithin the country..

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      Non PhD

      “When the International institutions and the international community are pro GOSL what can the minority do ?”

      It was not the International Community which determined the conduct or the out come of the war, on the contrary Hindians were supported by the International Community and Sri Lanka was made to Tow Hindian line.

      USA & IC understood and agreed with Hindia the importance and need to stabilize the region.

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    If the plan to assassinate the Vellala Kid Abraham was a hoax, concocted by the UNP Yahapalana Police as the CM alleged , It must be real now after the Kid’s latest announcement on reconciliation.

    Abraham said , the TNA has withdrawn the demand for a Federal State of Eelaam because the word Federal is feral as far as the Sinhalese are concerned….

    All he and his Vellala party TNA now want is full devolution,

    Even our Punchisingho would know that it is 1/3 of the land mass for the Vellalas and the One million diaspora to control, with their own Police..

    Of course the UNP Elite , Anglicans, and the high fliers in the LBBT will be in and out of the Devolved North for business, recreation and all sorts of other cool activities.

    But the poor Southerners, who are earning a quid their will have to head home, when the Vellala cousins in India come over under Batalnada Ranil’s ETCA.

    Plus the Vellala CM’s promise that there won’t be any Sinhala Buddhist colonies there, and Sivajilingams and Ponnambalams will make sure of it.

    Now the Vellala Party Leader Sambandan to demand the War Crime trials is a puzzle.
    especially when the Vella and Diaspora buddy and Mangalan’s ex boss and current mentor , Whiskey Madam has publicly declared that there won’t be war crime trials let alone War Crime Investigators from Overseas.

  • 1
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    CT looks journalistically bankrupt.

    Read the title and the content.

    Content hardly as anything about TNA.

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      It’s much better than most Sinhala sites.

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    “to probe war crimes committed during the final stages of the war between the military and the LTTE”.

    It’s pertinent to know what really happened, who killed, who ordered and how many Sri Lankans were killed?

    Supporters of both parties must know the truth and the victims must be done justice.

    The government has got the registers of number of people lived in 5 districts of NP and the names of soldiers took part in the fighting. Many soldiers who fought the war went missing either dead in the fighting or hiding among the masses. The dead must be paid respect as they were either innocent victims or brave soldiers or fighters. Unless we account for all of them then you treat them as mere non-humans.

    LTTE followers are under the impression that the outfit DID NOT commit any crime including alleged shooting on escaping civilians. On the other side many think that soldiers carried gun and book on human rights. They also must know what really happened and the extent of criminality, if any, committed in their names. This truth will lead to repentance and possibly lead to genuine reconciliation and prevention of recurrence of such horrific communal uprising.

    Black and White of South Africa seem to be living in relative peace after much worse horrors committed against the former by the latter.

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    Mr. Sampanthan is miffed but I am sure not surprised as claimed by a comment above. He is working with the government because the alternative is war which no one wants.

    So Mr. Sampanthan does what he can — push the government as a sort of partner, while working with the international community to ensure no progress on GSP Plus and no let up in Geneva. These are our weapons and they are clean weapons, weapons that hurt the government. With the economy the way Rajapakse’s left it, the government is very sensitive on the economic front.

    A good general chooses the battlefield. Our “Uncle Sam” has chosen a battlefield where the IC can temper the inherent racism of our government

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    The government won on a package of promises!

    If you fail on one front you will automatically fail on all because the promises are interrelated.

    The government has reached the state of no return

    The series of failures will result in a domino effect; all those associated will also surfer! The crisis the government faces are self inflicted and have reached a irreversible stage.

    The TNA by their association with the government has become vulnerable.

    The TNA leaders wanted to tread a different path after 60 years of confrontational politics, but the moderate polices face road blocks everywhere forcing TNA to rethink and compels them to go back to their original discredited, barren polices.

    The present discredited polices are to seek help from outside foreven nominal issues.

    Win or loose, you have to fight your own battle, outsiders can help only marginally.

    Dependence results in dependency syndrome and it is a vicious circle.

    This is the lesson our own glorious past teaches us. Look how Cuba, Vietnam, Israel succeeded.

    They were independent and look outside only for assistance

    If you don’t learn from history,it is your own folly.

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    SK
    “The government won on a package of promises!
    “If you fail on one front you will automatically fail on all because the promises are interrelated.”

    Are you new to politics?
    Promises in politics (even elsewhere) are like clouds. Nobody can pin a politician down on any promise.

    Who cares until the next election, when there will be new promises.

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    What is the difference between the leader of the opposition and the leader of the joint oppositions in parliament today?
    This fellow Sambanthan and the TNA as a whole still continue to cheat the Tamil people.
    He is fully aware before long that the Sinhala government is not going to honour the pledges made to the UNHRC with regard to the war crimes committed by the armed forces against the Tamil civilians. Yet this fellow goes on to support the government in all the way he could. He is not an an honest and sincere man to lead the Tamils. The best man now is Mr.Wigneshwaran. Mr Sambanthan had shown the International Community that all is well as far as the Tamils are concerned.

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    Dear CT forum participants,
    “Meanwhile, Sampanthan who is also the leader of the opposition in parliament, has accused the government of trying to evade its responsibilities by buying time from the UNHRC. He had also reportedly said that if the Sri Lankan government seeks for more time at the UNHRC sessions in Geneva this month, then the UN must monitor and scrutinize the government’s activities ‘more closely’ to ensure they are genuinely working towards fulfilling its pledge, or was looking at ways of stalling the probe.”
    Does this mean Sampanthan never knew how Sri Lanka has been digging its own grave for the last 70 years. Is he not a Sri Lankan to occupy the Leader of the opposition position and allowed Sri Lankan new Yahapalanaya Government also to push down the Country just like the previous Governments did? So what more responsibility these leaders of Sri Lanka have? Just play to the gallery and roll down the Country for the future generations to be buried? Come on wake up for the sake of your future generations. Stop the crimes and bring back dignity with your honest service to your people. Stop helping each other and ignoring your Country’s future.

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