25 September, 2020

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Blasphemy Against The Prophet: Pakistan Christians Rally Over Lahore Attacks

Protests in Karachi after mobs ransack and torch homes in Christian area of Lahore over alleged insult against prophet, Aljazeera reports.

Dozens of Pakistani Christians have protested in Karachi, hours after mobs ransacked a Christian neighbourhood in Lahore and torched dozens of homes. Mobs on Saturday caused widespread damage in the eastern Pakistani city after hearing reports that a Christian man had committed blasphemy against the Prophet Muhammad, according to a police officer.

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    Gamini – You are wasting time and ink arguing with obstinate racial zealots in dire want of learning. In these very pages, one said the reason for the incredible rise in birth rates among their lot was because their men are more virile and women more potent???? If GoSL has any economic savvy they must introduce here the system effectively followed by the current Govt in China where, to stop their own baby-boom, the law is anyone with more than one child will have to pay for education, health and public transport of the others. A move in this direction will cause an immediate drop in the proliferation of human piglets in the country – a source of much worry to the regime. Another who comes in different names says death by Stone-throwing was started by the Greeks and continued by the Jews. He, in his twisted rationale, seems to suggest it should, therefore, be continued??? Why does not the idiot suggest to his lot to give up this Stone Age habit. It seems the right time now that the Saudis are shy of world opinion and are taking steps to do away with their fond sport of neck-cutting in public. But I appreciate there is a problem. Anyone from here making the suggesting will have his own neck cut in the culture obtaining in their religion.

    It appears to me these are paid half-educated bigots financed by their own NGO-types using Islamic foreign money. They are incapable of debate or reasonable argument, as you can see from the above examples. Allow them to bray. They cannot do much harm. It is like the dog looking at the moon and barking incessantly. I must add, judging from the improvement of their language repertoire in recent weeks, they seem to be learning new words and nuances – something to which they must be grateful to the eclectic pages of Colombo Telegraph.

    Senguttuvan

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      So, you admit that you are dreaded with a bigoted epilepsy?

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      SEnguthuvan

      Sadly you are the only one who thinks that he is smart. We don’t think we are interested in measuring our intellect nor are we in competition for brownie points. We want open debate the very reason we want to share our opinion. Just because we don’t bow down and worship you for your intellect, which is exhibited here and many have commented on, you are raving and ranting.

      Like I have said before, you are not judged on how loudly you present your argument, but only improving the quality of your arguments.

      Also your breeding too has been commented on by many, given your liberal use of epithet, invective and innuendo.

      Einstein, once said we all know that light travels faster than sound and that’s why some people look bright until they open their mouths !

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        Hi Nabil,

        Could Einstein worship in a synagogue in Islamic Saudi Arabia, Dubai, or Pakistan?

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          Albert Einstein’s religious views have been studied extensively. He said he believed in the “pantheistic” God of Baruch Spinoza, but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said an “attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.

          Lester vie for knowledge? Then read, don’t circumabulate Saudi Arabia.

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            Dear Nabil aka Open The Eye,

            Einstein was a practicing Jew till the end of life. I recall see a documentary about him, in which he had a menorah in his room.

            I am against nationalism but in favor of Zionism [Blumenfeld quotes Einstein as having told him]. The reason has become clear to me today. When a man has both arms and he is always saying I have a right arm, then he is a chauvinist. However, when the right arm is missing, then he must do something to make up for the missing limb. Therefore, I am, as a human being, an opponent of nationalism. But as a Jew I am from today a supporter of the Jewish Zionist efforts. Ronald W. Clark, Einstein: The Life and Times, World Publishing (1971) p. 378.

            But that is not my main question. My question is why Jews cannot build synagogues in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, or Dubai. This shows a level of intolerance and hatred that would make Jack the Ripper blink twice.

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              Seeing is not believing, even you call or recall a million times. Read to solve your Einstein issues. The question of a synagogue is not a matter when there are no Hebrew citizens of it’s own in Saudi Arabia. All Hebrew civic in Saudi Arabia either converted to Islam or Christianity, so there’s no polity of a Hebrew civic in that country to build a synagogue to show the World and Lester that Saudi Arabia is secular. Dubai and Pakistan has synagogues since long time of the past.

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              Pliny aka Nabil,

              The reason there are no synagogue in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Dubai is because of Muslim intolerance. There is no synagogue in Dubai or Pakistan – a simple Google search will confirm this.

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            You speak Bummish, read ‘Internet for Dummies’.

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          Lester,

          First, I must assure you that I don’t need alias’s as I am capable of defending myself without support from others.

          Second, if people are coming to my aid, your buddy Senguthuvan and you must be doing something to irk CT readers.

          Finally in response, will you allow Mahayana to take root in Sri Lanka? Are there any Mahayana temples and monks who are allowed to compete with Theravada Buddhism?

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            There is no conflict between the Mahayana and Theravada Buddhists. On the other hand, Islam is the most violent religion in history. If Muslims could take over the world, the final “war of conquest” would be between Sunni and Shia, as we saw in Iraq and now we see in Syria.

            You have still not answered my question as to why there are no synagogues in Saudi Arabia, Dubai, or Pakistan. If Jews are denied a place in these countries, then Islam cannot be said to be tolerant. I am not talking about ancient history but this century itself. A Jew wanted to build a synagogue in Libya after the “Arab Spring” but was not allowed to do so.

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              You have NOT answered my question. Why are there no Mahayana Temples in this country?

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              @Nabil,

              You are bringing up ancient history. A Mahayana Buddhist can come to Sri Lanka and build a Mahayana temple. A Jew cannot go to Saudi Arabia and build a synagogue.

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              Gamini and Lester

              Please name ONE Mahayana Buddhist Temple in Sri Lanka.

              Why is Ven. Pitiduwe Siridhamma Thero of Siri Sadaham Ashramaya in Bellantara being hounded?

              Why was the Nichiren Shoshu Buddhist Temple at Liberty Plaza belonging to a Japanese closed down?

              Is the street named “Ven. Pelpola Vipassi Himi Mawatha” still in existence?

              And what happened to Vipassi-Benpo of the Shingon-Su Order of Japan’s Mahayana Sect who fled the country in 1990?

              Get a life guys!

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            Mr.Nabil & the Least understanding Lester,

            Pali Buddhism is erased from the history of Sri Lanka. Theravada, the next oldest theory is being replaced with volumes of anecdotes from Brahmin scholars by the name Mahayana. Theravada is no more practiced, Mahayana is the current one in it’s trend in Sri Lankan Buddhism. The FaHsien mostly spoiled the Theravadan Buddhism theoretically. The South Indian Buddhagosha, tried to review the Pali & Theravadan Buddhism to it’s best, but did not interpolate anything into it. His interpretations are much valid and best ascribed to Gautham the uttama Buddha in it’s true obedience.

            Buddha was a good creature of the Brahma, now who follows his thesis of a way to simple living for his own?

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              Thank you for the explanation. Now let’s see what Lester has to say!

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              Nabil:

              Once again, if a Mahayana Buddhist wants to build a temple in Sri Lanka, there is nothing to stop him. Bringing up ancient events from 800 years ago is useless. Asking why there are no Mahayana Temples in Sri Lanka is the same as asking why there are no Ethiopians in the Japanese government. If you want to go back 800 years, we can talk about your Prophet and why he was molesting underage girls.

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              @Poster:

              Many things are erased from Sri Lankan history. Just like many things are erased from Islamic history. If I told you “Kaaba” was really a Hindu shrine, what will you say? If I told you Q’uran was plagiarized from the Bible and Torah, what will you say? At least Sri Lankan history is original . The monks were fully literate, unlike your hasish-smoking friend who ascended to Jerusalem on magic carpets.

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      @ Senguttuvan.

      He said, “proliferation of human piglets in the country”. He is referring to the high birth rare in the Muslim community. This is insult! He and his ilk have complained that Muslims are not for debate. But how do you debate with evil beings who only throw such insults at not only Muslims but everything they value?

      He seems to argue that public beheading or stoning to death have their origin in the ancient. It must be stopped BECAUSE of its ancient origin. That is a pathetic argument. By the same logic, democracy must be done away with because it has its origin in ancient Greek.

      He is a good a example of why harsh punishments may be a good thing. Those mouths that call babies ‘piglets’ must be stitched up!

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        This skunk was in the DBJayaraj forum, he picks faeces from those bullocks.

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        Lion, what is his pigmentation, abnormal or distinctive?

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    If not for the importance of oil, many a Muslim in the Arab world will be still smelling of camels and living as bedouins. This is the truth. It is funny How their God Allah nor their Prophet Mohamed could do nothing to improve their stock till the world demand for oil was created by man. It is also funny how the non Muslims in other parts of the world for millenia have been living better and more civilised than the Muslims. Their boast of crime and punishment for centuries have not eradicated vice from the Muslim Societies. So their boasts are empty as their claims of being the chosen people. Further their dream of the whole world becoming Muslims with the development of IT is only but a pipe dream. The Muslims have to understand how vulnerable they are as their male population congregate for prayers on Fridays and run the risk of over 50% being decimated by another crank of the Zionists. If this happens the females will out number the Male Muslims that they will have to permit not seven but twenty one wives to one Muslim to bring about a balance of their cult. Early Religious Wars have already resulted in permitting them to have seven wives at the moment. Making the females to cover from head to toe makes it even easier for the males to commit adultry in their society, because who knows, who is going with whom?

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      Gamini

      Replace Buddhism with Allah and Sinhalese with Muslims and everything you say will ring true to you.

      Despite this country being blessed thrice, being the chosen country for protecting Buddhism and fighting many wars to defend Sinhala Buddhism, what have you got to show?

      The girl child being raped, highest among suicides, highest among liquor consuming countries, highest numbers of households headed by women, lowest rates of murder and crime conviction.

      And a secular country like Singapore over takes you. A Muslim country like Malaysia is ahead of you.

      Don’t live like a ” ling Mediya”!

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        Nabil, your position change has no bearing for the short comings of Human lapses. It is unfortunate that the system introduced by the British has enabled the scum in society to come in to governance today. So the kind of vile you mention is rife and we are behind Singapore and malaysia. To establish Law and Order for the society to uphold human values has nothing to do with Religion. If it had, the level the society indulges in Religion should have none of the problems. The truth is not the Religion but the Laws of the land being not applied. So it has nothing to do with Islam or Buddhism. So keep dreaming that Islam is the answer and that the whole world will one day become Muslim.

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          Thank you Gamini. Now YOU are making sense. We should be discussing how to take our country forward, regain the respect we had and how best we can improve the lot of the Sri Lankan poor.

          Instead we are picking on religion. My point is made. I rest my case now!

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        Nabil, I personaly do not believe that Buddha blessed this land for the Sinhalese Buddhists only. It is a myth created by the fanatics. You can ill afford to speak of children being raped as according to your Religion, nine year olds have been consumated by adults to start with. Unfortunately there were no child molestation Laws then.

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          DearmGamini,

          Don’t go too far with your righteous rhetoric, Polyandry (EKTAM GE) was common even in the 60’s where 2 or more Sinhalese bothers from the same family shared one wife! This is prostitution!

          Under the Kandyan (Sinhalese) Marriage Ordinance of 1859,the legal marriage age for females was 12 years. This is child rape. Even today according to sociologists lots of underage girls are cohabiting in the NW & NC provinces with the consent of parents.

          It is not the fault of religion if people are not perfect. I hope you will be take an objective view of Islam and Muslim instead of making disparaging remarks, and perhaps your lopsided view of Islam and Muslims will stop from now on at least.

          Let’s not bring your high horse attitudes to this public forum because the world have moved on!

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            Robert Knox, an English exile who spent nearly 20 years in the Kandyan Kingdom states in “Historical Relation of Ceylon” (1681):
            “It is not accounted any shame or fault for a man of the highest sort to lay with a woman far inferior to himself, nay of the very lowest degree, provided he neither eats nor drinks with her, nor takes her home to his house as his wife.

            Knox’s statement shows that marriage, unlike mere cohabitation, had a ritual value.

            Indeed other statements of his show that Kandyan society was an extremely licentious one where both men and women had full freedom to cohabit with whomsoever they pleased save that in the case of women, they could not do so with the ones inferior in caste to themselves, such an act entailing severe punishment.

            Says Knox, “If any of the females should be so deluded, as to commit folly with one beneath herself, if ever she should appear to the sight of her friends, they would certainly kill her, there being no other way to wipe off the dishonor she has done the family but by her own blood.”

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              Yet again, it’s not the fault of Siddhartha’s Buddhism, it’s the individuals or a group or a race which take freedom of their choice to interpret the legal systems as righteous, and ascribe them to be the law of Buddhism.

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          Gamani, Disce aut Discede, there lays the final argument?

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          Gamunu,

          Buddha personally blessed this land for the Buddhists is a felicity that no Buddhist nation have ever got is a fact.

          And abrogating the above fact of blessing, to demonstrate a secular image towards the minorities of the land does not bestow a commendable attitude towards the Buddhist history, but to add credit to one’s own arrogance.

          Where the schism lies is whether you adhere to the teachings of the Buddha and act accordingly or against it, by steeping you own doctrines to confer your theology on the Buddhist teachings is very very ugly.

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    Lester…

    You are on an ‘intellectual’ crusade against islam and muslims. Here is a punch, see if you can handle it! Please tell us WHY incest is wrong! To say that it is because everyone says so is a pathetic response. That is the answer of the sheep, not an ‘intellectual warrior’. :P

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      @Lionel,

      There is genetic evidence to suggest that incest leads to a greater chance of the offspring being retarded or suffering other illnesses. This is the view of modern science.

      The offspring of consanguineous relationships are at greater risk of certain genetic disorders. These autosomal recessive disorders occur in individuals who are homozygous for a particular recessive gene mutation. This means that they carry two copies (alleles) of the same gene. Except in certain rare circumstances (new mutations or uniparental disomy) both parents of an individual with such a disorder will be carriers of the gene. Such carriers are not affected and will not display any signs that they are carriers, and so may be unaware that they carry the mutated gene. As relatives share a proportion of their genes, it is much more likely that related parents will be carriers of an autosomal recessive gene, and therefore their children are at a higher risk of an autosomal recessive disorder. The extent to which the risk increases depends on the degree of genetic relationship between the parents; so the risk is greater in mating relationships where the parents are close relatives, but for relationships between more distant relatives, such as second cousins, the risk is lower (although still greater than the general population).[18] A 1994 study found a mean excess mortality with inbreeding at the first cousin level of 4.4%

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    Lester – This Marakkala Lionel is a seriously mentally sick case. The authorities should protect his children from him before he causes further harm. It is scary he insists incest is normal – and even encouraged.

    Include his disturbed colleague Agamemnon in the list. Watch out Agy
    can stink for miles – for his own twisted fetish that he describes here.

    Senguttuvan

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      Rephrase you Bunglish please, ‘watch out Agy could stink for miles, does not match any common man’s capability.

      1. One cannot watch a smell, only feel, unless he has a nose and the senses.
      2. The senses of a nose cannot reach to the miles in any human being, unless a dog. So, do you intend to say that Lester a dog, shame on you Sungu.

      3. Know that fetish cannot be twisted, it only could be imagined in a Bubonic Head like you.

      Keep away from your tantrums, as the eremite Gopi said somewhere in this forum.

      N.B. Drink some donkey milk, at least you will be a little fair in wit like Cleopatra.

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        Sango, your significance of effeminacy in faculty does lead to serious consequences, and a menace to your lot. Either you feel shame or unashamed, until you keep the orifice below your nose saved from the whiff of the fecal lava you spew out, you will be dreaded and never be abated from abuse.

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      Oh, cork yourself from the imminent abuse by the Lion. Safeguard your virginity, it is much essential for you to survive in this forum.

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    @ Sunguttuvan. He must read. Quran’s first word was READ.

    He has a heart filled with hatred. Thus his head will only absorb BS. When he reads his mind is preoccupied with what to say in response, instead of trying to understand.

    I have never said incest is ok. I only asked lester to explain WHY it is wrong. and i have a reason for doing so!

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      The punk neither loves Buddhism or Lester. He associate with this kobbekaduwa to his own gains for the support of his pimpy arguments. He is averaged around 50 still he argues like a rhyming tot.

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    @ Lester

    You say incest is illegal because there are scientific indications that it can be dangerous for the off springs. When Islam banned incest over 14 hundred years ago, there was no scientific data available on incest. Now you know that Islam was right! American Maa’me might soon learn that Islam was also right about banning homosexuality.

    The problem with the still evolving science is that it allows abominations to perpetuate until it can give an opinion on something. Before science talked about incest, it could very well have been legalised on the basis of science. Thus allowing generations to suffer.

    Now there is also scientific evidence that homosexuality and ‘one night stands’ are dangerous. Hasn’t the available scientific data convinced you, American Maa’me or Senguttuvan, that they are indeed dangerous practices? Then wait! Science may soon convince you.

    Maa’me was asking why he cannot engage in homosexuality without fear of being punished in the Mulims world. He now knows that there is a (possible) scientific reason behind it.

    The Western law has a lot of catching up to do with the islamic law.

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      Lionel & Nabil my old pals

      I thought you went away for good when you said ” have a good day ” during our last exchange. But I come back to see you are still hounding me It was my Arab joke that rankled you wasn’t it ?? :)

      1.You say ” we kick Arabs etc..”
      BUT wasnt your Prophet Muhammad an Arab himself. So why so disrespectful. So they are your massas.You take orders from them.

      2. Ever heard of that old proverb ” Actions Speak Louder Than Words”
      So you can keep TALIKING all you like but sure looks like the non-muslims( The west, The Russians, Israelis, Indians & Burmese etc ) have obviously realized that ACTION is better than WORDS when it comes to dealing with muslims and therefore decided to give you an ass-kicking all around the world that no amount of TALKING( or wishful thinking about conversions ) will stop.

      I was just trying to point out the fact that, that is what is probably gonna happen in Sri Lanka too with the BBS & all if you dont take a calm balanced approach towards this issue, but looks like U prefer to Keep talking while Rome is burning.

      Up to you my friend..up to you..

      Yeah yeah I know … I am house nigger, an imbecile , an idiot..etc etc..So what’s new pussy cat :)??

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        American lenocinor,

        Ha, ha, somebody tittilated you somewhere, indu scalpe tui clunis.

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        I an warding off cads trying to strip our sisterhood in the name of decency! So I have little time for idle chatter!

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      Dear Lionel,

      For the benefit of readers, tell us how we can use Islam and Q’uran to build lightbulbs, cars, cure cancer, fly across the world in less than a day, and use the subatomic properties of atoms to build plasma screens. Only a complete imbecile will believe that Islam is superior to modern science.

      And we cannot claim that what was written in fiction books has any practical value. Otherwise, H.G. Wells must be a “prophet” because his books spoke about biological weapons, cell phones, anti-gravity, automatic doors, and genetic engineering.

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        We can fix a light bulb in you somewhere that your subatomic properties will diminish and you hide behind a screened plasma.

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    @ Lester,

    Quran or the Sayings of the Prophet aren’t scientific manuals. SO they cannot help you make a plasma screen. Though Quran and ‘Sayings’ not scientific manuals, islam actually encourages man to use his mind to develop them. To appreciate the contribution, islamic civilisations has made to science technology, check this out …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZDe9DCx7Wk

    But organising the human needs and instincts is not something we learn science manuals either. Islam came to show man how to organise his needs and instincts. Homosexuality, incest etc are related to organising man’s procreational instincts!

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      A very interesting video Lionel, showing the wonderful contributions by Islam to the progress of mankind.
      An equally interesting dvd called “Islam Empire of Faith” (PBS), also supports this. It shows the wonderful contributions by Islamic scholars in Mesopotamia, the cradle of knowledge, where the concept of hospitals was first devised, where they discovered the concept of germs and how it is passed from and to human beings, Islamic architecture, beautiful and still standing in European countries, the contributions to the arts, astrology, and the numerous inventions that came out of that congregations of scholars, and the latest thinking absorbed from all parts of the world.

      Much as some may try to dismiss these wonderful triumphs, and now try to pat themselves on their backs for their achievements, the bottom line is many of our modern day inventions are based on what those wonderful scholars were able to contribute. It is a shame that extremists have hijacked a peaceful religion, and that anti Islamic elements have taken that advantage to demonize and denigrate all peaceful Muslims. If only they had bragging rights to the wonderful inventions and achievements these Islamic scholars had, we would have to hear more arrogance and gloating! So these lame attacks on the religion, the denigrating of the Prophet, and what we see here from maybe paid trolls, should be ignored, because no Islamaphobe, ignorant servant of an Islamaphobe, can erase history, or make the world believe that all 1.6 billion Muslims are represented by a small percentage of extremists.

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    We learn from Marakkala Lionel here ” Quran said …Thus his head will only absorb Bull Shit” ??? Really? Please educate us more with chapter and verse. It is not many “respected” religions who refer to this BS you often fondly refer to.

    By the way, why are you hiding behind a decent Christian name or monicker. Are you ashamed to use one of yours.

    Senguttuvan

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      What moniker Lewdinsky? Kongu idiot. You rotting cadaver come again here to create chaos. Chal BC.

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    “Despite this country being blessed thrice, being the chosen country for protecting Buddhism and fighting many wars to defend Sinhala Buddhism” says Nabil. There will be many in his lot singing this new song – based on a load of historical untruths. Despite all the brouha earler, Obama was not wrong after all. Change does come. Or is it forced to me?

    Senguttuvan

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      What’s that brouhaha? Proof read your English silly owl.
      Change could come and forced into you and multiplied thrice.

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    Correction – Or is it forced to come. Senguttuvan

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      You are already corrected, and be warned never bring your fruitless anecdotes onto the public to tarnish the image of Tamils and Christianity, fool.

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